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Is your money safe at Stanchart Bank?
yekeyeke
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:58:21 PM
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http://www.capitalfm.co....8529.html#ixzz0oNa1MV7E


Guys. Dont know if you were able to see this, but if you are banking with these guys, better check if your money is still there....
What can be done to stop these issues of employee fraud?
2012
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:35:29 PM
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Dude, what are you talking about??? I read the entire article and I don't get your point.

BBI will solve it
:)
yekeyeke
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:48:44 PM
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Angalia hapo karibu na mwisho and you will see...


Separately, a cashier, has denied stealing over Sh7 million from the Standard Chartered Bank.

Elijah Odiva Okumu, is accused of committing the offense between April 8 and May 17 this year at the bank’s Kenyatta Avenue branch in Nairobi.

He was released on a Sh500,000 cash bail until July 19 when his case will be heard.


2012
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:27:45 PM
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What I mean is the headline on your thread creates the wrong impression. In your story, I can't see where a customer lost money in the theft to give me a reason to worry, or have I missed something?

BBI will solve it
:)
yekeyeke
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:34:17 PM
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@2012
Why dont you call stanchat to find out whose money he stole. Banks keep depositors money in account and not their own money.
obiero
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:05:33 PM
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seven million is nothing.. banks loose alot more money on a regular basis.

kyt
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:18:36 PM
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obiero spot on
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Intelligentsia
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:39:51 AM
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@yekeyeke, you are obviously a greenhorn, your curtness to @ 2012's logical qstn is uncalled for & surprising. Iko nini? Tuliza joto bro, na makinika nami.Listen...

KShs 7m is unroasted peanuts to a bank of Stanchart's stature - did you know Barclays Tanzania, for instance, lost about 1 million USD dollars (say KShs 80m) last yr through fraud? Do you know how much Kenya's banking industry has lost to fraudsters in the past 5 yrs?

It doesn't have to be money lost from a customer's account, sometimes its cash from the bank is pilfered from various internal accounts, procurement, etc. Each organisation in the world must have come across a fraud - either attempted of successful.So its pretty much a very prevalent crime.

The biggest enemy to fighting fraudsters in the banking industry are the banks themselves as they prefer sacking in lieu of prosecuting the frausdsters due to reputational risk considerations. Which is why I really commend Stanchart for suing the riff raff in this case. Such efforts help fight what is becoming a huge systemic issue in banking.
Then again it is not restricted to banking as it is a corporate (white collar) crime and many companies in kenya and world over have lost billions of dollars to this crime.
The key in banking is to have proper risk management framework (adequately and frequently tested controls, vibrant policies & procedures, and a vigilant Risk, Audit and Compliance Dept). Appropraite insur. & constant anti-fraud awareness & training of staff also helps.


http://www.jamiiforums.c...d-tra-us$-5-million.html
mlefu
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:54:56 AM
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heard of a shop along Kirinyaga road that lost 10M in kindu 10 minutes and never bothered to report..i have Wahindis who tell me of stuff that happens in Hindis run banks..like chase bank ...figures that bhang your mind
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:17:50 AM
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@intelligentsia - The lack of prosecutions for fraud shows the problems we have in our legal system that creates a nightmare for firms to tackle corruption within their ranks... essentially, mta do?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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