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MJ Not in a hurry to retire
banyamulenge
#1 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:12:00 PM
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The man has dispelled the 'romours' that he is hanging up his boots soon. Is this announcement bound to ripple the market in any direction?

"The longer the fuse the mightier the blast!"
guru267
#2 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:22:07 PM
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@banyamulenge the market already heard the first statement of him retiring and nothing happened to the stock...

but before i say anything else i'm very interested to know where you got this information?????
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
banyamulenge
#3 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:43:49 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@banyamulenge the market already heard the first statement of him retiring and nothing happened to the stock...

but before i say anything else i'm very interested to know where you got this information?????


@Guruman..The item is on the one o'clock news

"The longer the fuse the mightier the blast!"
guru267
#4 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:05:50 PM
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banyamulenge wrote:
@Guruman..The item is on the one o'clock news


i think you mean @guruWOMAN/CHICK/GAL... why do sooo many people think i'm a dude yet its clearly written that i aint one???
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
2012
#5 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:06:57 PM
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I'm sure no one here thought MJ was going to retire this year. I would have probably thought about it if he doesn't participate in the Lewa marathon because it would have meant something's up with his health...

All the same he needs to think about retiring soon. Like Kibaki, he's built himself a good legacy.

BBI will solve it
:)
Caveman
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:23:45 PM
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@2012: Kibaki has built himself a good legacy? I beg to differ.
guru267
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:32:30 PM
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Caveman wrote:
@2012: Kibaki has built himself a good legacy? I beg to differ.


@caveman thanks for reading my mind
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:48:15 PM
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@2012 - LOLest... You are comparing baks to MJ... ati, good legacy for baks???

1) Anglo-fleecing
2) Maize scam
3) Fertlizer scam
4) Rigged elections or PEV in 2008
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Intelligentsia
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:10:03 PM
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Old men behaving badly, refusing to retire
2012
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:14:45 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@2012 - LOLest... You are comparing baks to MJ... ati, good legacy for baks???

1) Anglo-fleecing
2) Maize scam
3) Fertlizer scam
4) Rigged elections or PEV in 2008


I had a talk with a political scientist and at first I also thought it was a joke but I later agreed that Kibs good legacy will be one that will not be forgotten. The bad we will forget.

1) Free primary education
2) Democratic space
3) Infrastructure
4) New Constitution
5) CDF

If we forgave Moi and his fingerprints were all over the cookie jar do you honestly think anyone will hold a grudge against Kibs because hse had a friend or two who were thieves? I think history will treat him kindly. And no leader in many years to come will match this. Maybe one will give us a complex health bill like Obama's...

BBI will solve it
:)
Wa_ithaka
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53:53 PM
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if nobody can match ithe wa jimmy, we really are in deep sit
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:13:31 PM
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2012 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@2012 - LOLest... You are comparing baks to MJ... ati, good legacy for baks???

1) Anglo-fleecing
2) Maize scam
3) Fertlizer scam
4) Rigged elections or PEV in 2008


I had a talk with a political scientist and at first I also thought it was a joke but I later agreed that Kibs good legacy will be one that will not be forgotten. The bad we will forget.

1) Free primary education
2) Democratic space
3) Infrastructure
4) New Constitution

If we forgave Moi and his fingerprints were all over the cookie jar do you honestly think anyone will hold a grudge against Kibs because hse had a friend or two who were thieves? I think history will treat him kindly. And no leader in many years to come will match this. Maybe one will give us a complex health bill like Obama's...
I have not forgiven moi who should not get anything from taxpayers including a state funeral.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:17:53 PM
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2012 wrote:
I later agreed that Kibs good legacy will be one that will not be forgotten. The bad we will forget.

1) Free primary education
2) Democratic space
3) Infrastructure
4) New Constitution

baks never supported #2. He was firmly in the 1-party state faction. We saw how PNU rigged in 2007 or how he valued power more than peace.

Who said destroying kanu is like cutting down a mugumo tree with a razor?

baks does not want a new constitution but the pressure from Kenyans is forcing him to toe the line. Even dan moi had to acquiesce in 1992.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#14 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:17:54 PM
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so mj is the makmende of safcom...lol.
guru267
#15 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 6:46:49 AM
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@2012 Kibaki may have done somethings in his time for example he brought some of the listed companies and a few others from the brink of insolvency..

but I dont think he has earned the right to be placed alongside MJ when it comes to achievements
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
McReggae
#16 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 7:16:58 AM
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baks an achiever???.....Laughing out loudly!!!!
kenyans ambitions might have sunk to new low levels!Q!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
2012
#17 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 7:17:53 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
We saw how PNU rigged in 2007 or how he valued power more than peace.


Everyone rigged 2007. All valued power over peace. Remember ODM's Isaac Ruto confessing that ODM never won the elections?

BBI will solve it
:)
aemathenge
#18 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 7:32:40 AM
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One of the traits by Wazuans that really irrates me is when they use their personal standards to make judgements for us all.

Personally, Kibaki is the man. Under his watch, Kerugoya street roads that used to be "shamba" are now getting neatly tarmacked.

The road from Mwea Makutano to Meru is such a joy to drive on. It passes 30 meters from our "shags".

I was paying heavyly for our extended family's primary school going kids. Now we are simply buying uniforms. They even get pencils and exercise books at school.

Kibaki once told "his" people to go to banks and get loans to develop themselves and not wait by road sides expecting him to give them "something". That is he told them to learn fishing and not wait for fish donations. His own people.

Now could you Wazuans tell us about Mobitelea. Remember what "MJ" told shareholders during "The" AGM about Mobitelea? I have yet to understand how one can be successful in a corruption infested economy and fail to be corrupt.

I rest.
Ric dees
#19 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 7:37:51 AM
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President Kibaki’s legacy will not be an easy one to judge. During his watch, we saw neighbours turn against each other in some parts of the country at a scale never witnessed before.

One school of thought remains has it that he failed to use his authority and the State instruments at his disposal to quash the 2008 post-election violence before it escalated.

Another argues that strong-arm tactics would have hardened opposition to his ‘victory’ and fuelled systematic national protests, with Madagascar style results.

Kibaki is accused of leaving his Ministers and some junior politicians to call political shots. This blurs national focus and confuses the citizenry. This style of state management baffles quite many.

But those familiar with former president Moi’s approach aren’t quick to condemn. ministers and State officials close to Kibaki perhaps understand him well and haven’t drawn quick conclusions. They may once help to resolve Kibaki’s governance puzzle.

Kibaki left all State universities to other managers, a thing never done before. He has littered the country with numerous districts, an approach we are yet to quite figure out. He has made bold steps towards free primary and secondary education.

He hasn’t gone on a land allocation spree, like others before him.

But it is his achievements in our infrastructure, particularly roads and ICT, that mark him out. Literally every urban centre in this country counts a new road constructed during Kibaki’s tenure.

Road networks, economists will tell you, have a tremendous multiplier effect on economies. We now have undersea fibre optic cables linking Kenya to the rest of the world, greatly boosting e-communication.

This is a gain that will trickle down to the grassroots and boost businesses, transparency in governance and democratic space.

But it is the recent focal shift to Kenya’s North, occasioned by today’s’ political spectrum and the looming famine, that will uniquely define Kibaki’s legacy.

In naming his Cabinet, Kibaki created a Ministry for Development of Northern Kenya & Other Arid Lands.

It may not have achieved much as yet; indeed, it even flaunts a “baby budget”, but the very creation of such a Ministry is symbolic and draws focused policy attention to the region.

I could go on and on but like most of us we conveniently forget the pros and focus on the cons!! a defeatist mentality perhaps! naaahh..i think it's just sheer ignorance.

The greatest danger in times of turbulence is not the turbulence; it is to act with yesterday's logic.
2012
#20 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 8:09:09 AM
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The truth is we Kenyans will never be satisfied. But when you clear your mind of all prejudice and really think about it you'll see that Kibs legacy will be better than Moi's, Kenyatta's and anyone else to come in a long time because it's obvious that the next successor will come from the current crop of 'leaders' we have and we know they are all crap!

BBI will solve it
:)
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