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KCB: Firmly in the stoneage
Jangwa la Jangili
#1 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 9:58:58 AM
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the other day, i go to bank an inhouse cheque at a KCB branch. i decided to just ask for the sake of it how long the cheque will take to clear. the guy goes like '2-3 business days'. i said 'get serious young man'.

an inhouse cheque is technically a book transfer.d'oh! ok, i would maybe have understood if i was depositing the cheque in Lokichoggio. but in Nairobi drawn on a branch in Nairobi? sure they want the float but 2-3 days for an inhouse cheque is so 1960s.
Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
mukiha
#2 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 10:13:48 AM
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@Jangwa la Jangili;

Come to I&M; inhouse cheques are cleared over the counter!!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
The General
#3 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 10:28:51 AM
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@ Mukiha,

Those guys seem to give you some superior services..ama your a shareholder, and the "divideds" are tamu sana
The thicker the thigh the sweeter the pie.
Radiance
#4 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 10:36:36 AM
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EB clears their inhouse check live live. B4 u reach the atm its reflecting
VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 12:27:58 PM
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Jangwa & General - Same here like @mukiha. I first went to I&M coz I was given an open cheque. I liked the service. I opened an account.
(Unlike Equity, you have to supply photos)

The banking halls are nice, the account has decent feature & the service is great. Lakini the hours suck but they have ATMs at every branch as well as Sarit Center.

Anyway, if you tell the cashier you want your in-house chq credited asap. S/he will do it there & then.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 12:30:46 PM
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BTW, at any bank (in my case I&M) I ask for immediate clearance. Why wait till end of the day?

Example: If Mr.ABC writes 5 chqs for 100k each lakini for some reason he has only 400k in available funds... who knows if my chq is the last to be processed?

I would rather get 'instant' credit & be #1 in line!!!

CFC Stanbic takes 2 business days to clear 'in-house' chqs!!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mukiha
#7 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 12:48:58 PM
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@General; not me alone....it's just the way they work.

@VVS; Since the day I joined [year 2001], the Kenyatta avenue branch has been opening til 5pm. Today some branches have started opening 7 days a week. Thus I wouldn't say the hours are that bad.

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Have you seen their financials? Excellent. This bank should get listed....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
chi20
#8 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 1:24:58 PM
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and to mention the only bank (kcb) where you will find retirees serving you at the counters.
anasazi
#9 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 2:19:33 PM
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The reason these guys operate this way is to make a little more from we poor kenyans. We're still some way from getting a fully mature banking system in the country. 2 days to clear internal checks is just unacceptable. But we must accept it, eh?
Form is temporary, class is permanent
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 4:37:57 PM
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@mukiha - I am a kijana compared to you... Since 2001... wow!

Anyway, I was at CFC... they had a 50k minimum... but at least no charges for every small thing... & 3% interest...

Nowadays, CFC 'Stanbic' charges for over the counter withdrawals even if I use a cheque! I am pissed!!! All this with a 50k minimum... I think the interest rate has also dropped...

I&M has 10k minimum which I like... If you get to know the CSRs, they will even deposit chqs for you... When in a hurry, I just leave my chqs+deposit slip with them.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 4:38:48 PM
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@mukiha - Which I&M branch is open on Sunday?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
cnn
#12 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2009 5:00:36 PM
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a long time buy from accoring to KESTREL,the bank will benefit from economic reovery from mid next year.. . . .
me thinks this is the banking counter of the future',the regional expansion will feed into p/l account soon.If they could just arrest white collar losses of the triton type.
Poggie
#13 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 12:39:43 PM
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I&M bank are open on Sunday at Sarit Centre. In-house chq are given spot-value clearance, meaning you get credited hapo hapo. I have banked with them from the days of Biashara bank. They have a cool product called next gen. I made this account joint (with Wifey ofcourse) and we got issued with 2 Visa debit cards and we use it purely for our internal domestic shopping. Every time my wife rings up a cash register I receive an SMS to my mobile phone indicating the amount spent. It gives me control because it freaks out my wife that I know when and how much she is purchasing. Don't take me wrong, she is very prudent and I just shrug off the power it gives me to know what she is up to.

Lastly, even if you wanted, you will never stay longer than 5 mins in their banking halls. And I don't know how they did it, but they managed to shed that muhindiness of yore. Its pretty cool I must say. Even the muhindi front office personnel are comely and serve deligently, no airs or racial rubicons. I recommend them.

PS. This new site of Wazaledo's really got my knickers in a twist. For a week I have been battling with myself and the fear of change. I have just barely it made out of the woods.
As A Man Thinketh So is He
VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 1:08:04 PM
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@poggie - asante. Sarit is kidogo crowded on weekends but doable from kile if needed.

Westie FOLKS are lucky... Banks there are open late & 7 days... I&M, SCBK, DTBK, BBK, CFCS, BOI, BOB

Since it was biashara bank? Wow... How long ago was that?

I remember the squat building on kenyatta avenue them days. Now one of the best looking buildings in CBD. I like the blue colour.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mdosi
#15 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 1:53:44 PM
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@vitu,
Which barclays branch is open on sundays?
It's amazing what you can achieve when you get rid of fear.
mukiha
#16 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 2:36:19 PM
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@Poggie & V-V-S

I&M was never Biashara!!!

I&M was Investments and Mortgages, while Biashara was...well...Biashara {Started on Biashara Street, opposite Sunus'}

Then I&M bought Biashara.....they called it a merger, but really, Biashara was simply bought out through a share offer to the previous owners...no wonder the name "Biashara" disappeared kabisa

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Yeap! This bank is amazing....each time I make payment on the Visa Electron, they call me if the amount is above 10k. Also when I withdraw from the ATM
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 4:11:47 PM
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@mdosi - barclays at westgate lakini I understand (I am not a barclays customer) there is an 'after-hours' charge for the service!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#18 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 4:16:54 PM
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@mukiha - Lakini I&M was not a bank (or was it?) before it bought out (merged with) Biashara Bank?

I remember the bank on Kenyatta Ave (can't recall the other location) where the I&M Bank building is.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mainat
#19 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 4:39:49 PM
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How long does it take to open an account wit I&M?
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Gordon Gekko
#20 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2009 6:46:42 PM
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@mdosi, there is a tiny BBk branch at Nakumatt Embakasi that opens on Sundays.
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