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Kenya Shilling Strong?
VituVingiSana
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:31:00 PM
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What is behind the recent (sudden) strength of the KShs? Esp vs the US$?

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caesar
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:09:00 PM
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For Currency Guru's: What is going on with the Shilling?
jerry
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:28:00 AM
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B4 the experts ans I would say it could be that Obama has printed dollars and so it's the dollar that is weakening. Bad for exporters like in tea and coffee ind. Imports,like of cars,will b cheap!

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#4 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:40:00 AM
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its now at 76.00.and i beleive it will now go lower

gladie
kizee
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 7:53:00 AM
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pole gladie....75.80*90 traded....the move looks like some unwinding...funding a short kes position has become impossible for some offshores and theyve closed their shorts...i think too many people took some wrong bets on the kes
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#6 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:58:00 AM
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Thats not very good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#7 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 12:14:00 PM
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@kizee. Sorry for what? Wedz. You must be an exporter or something. I'm also in a sector adversly affected by a strong sh but Kenya is a net importer.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:09:00 PM
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Recent 5 year grant to the country for infrastructure development may have some bearing to the shilling strenghtening .Otherwise agricultural exports and tourism sectors quiet for now


I mean fundamental analysis,you get me?

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kizee
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:16:00 PM
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at 80 kes was way oversold...especialy given the net funding cost of carry...anyway closed at 77.40*50...cbk buying and kes still rallyin..makes one wonder
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#10 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:38:00 PM
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The importer$ are celebrating,whatever the cau$e.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:23:00 AM
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Ina zidi kupanda fasta fasta!
Exports up,foreigners coming into NSE,Global Financial crisis waning,coffee demand rising,tourism gaining,Kengen Bond.....last chance before bull run?

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:14:00 AM
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hah this economy doing well,exports going up? what a load of cobblers....with the drought there is nothing to export! there are two factors affecting kshs.

1. the us$ has weakened internationally

2. the kengen bond issue has many foreign investors interested. which western country can currently offer a secure return of 12.5%??its a good deal for them. unfortunately there wont be many local investors.
itz
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:00:00 PM
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I am amazed when i see the financial experts when asked about why the KSH. is strengthening against the dollar and their answer is always foreign inflows/interest.Its plain and simple,the dollar has weakened significantly.The US dollar index was 79.7 end of august and as am typing this it is down to 75.97.
http://www.fxstreet.com/...s-charts/usdollar-index/
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:34:00 PM
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Going Technical on the explanation is that when the general interest rate regime is going up,exchange rates go down. Currently the interest rates available to depositors is generally up possibly due to the Kengen IPO. Note that a bank that could not give you 10% interest on you cash can now offer you that rate. They know theyll reinvest it in the PIBO.

When interest rates increase generally the exchange rate falls (Interest Rate Parity Theorem). It seems like as long as the interst rates in the market keep increasing,the exchangerates will keep falling.

http://www.bized.co.uk/l...nge/interest_rate_4.htm



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#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:52:00 PM
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Lets be serious very few if any foreign investors are buying kengen bond as we speak. The damn settlement date is a month away so definately no foreigner is buying now. The only thing weakening the dollar against the shilling is the global dollar weakness and the strong tea inflows.
kizee
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:03:00 PM
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Kenya Shilling Strong? [kizee]
Thursday,May 07,2009 13:16

at 80 kes was way oversold...especialy given the net funding cost of carry...anyway closed at 77.40*50...cbk buying and kes still rallyin..makes one wonder
......

repost of my May 7th post...hearing as well that there are some M&A deals goin down in telco and finance sector..tea inflows ca never cause KES to rally as it does..KTDA sell maybe 10-15 USD a week,a paltry amount....

in addition...the move beyond 74.5 to the Dec 07 close was caused by a combination of heightened risk aversion,maize imports and an illiquid kes spot market...all these three factors are now gone.....we will see an unwinding of short KES positions....i think KES will hit 70 by years end
Feish
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:27:00 PM
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The shilling is discouraging to the diaspora. Especially if they have to pay bills in kenya shillings

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kizee
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:28:00 PM
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@ feish

60.35 traded last year,strong is relative
VituVingiSana
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:24:00 PM
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No rain... the KShs will remain weak... Note the US$ has weakened in the forex markets...

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Wendz
#20 Posted : Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:19:00 AM
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There is good supply of the dollar in the economy so that could explain it...
- CBK effect
- dollar inflows - foreign investors' interest in kengen bond and government securities
offering attractive guaranteed returns
- receipts from tourism and agriculture especially tea
- improved remittances from diaspora

Generally,inflows are heavier than outflows as of now.

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