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Shak
#1 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 12:40:54 AM
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Government will no longer advertise through private media outlets but will only do so on my.gov; the new official government newsapaper. Major loss of revenue for our two major media houses since the inserts will be placed in the star and people daily.
alotoftalk
#2 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 1:33:44 AM
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Shak wrote:
Government will no longer advertise through private media outlets but will only do so on my.gov; the new official government newsapaper. Major loss of revenue for our two major media houses since the inserts will be placed in the star and people daily.


This is a strategy bound to fail. What's the need of advertising if you're not getting the widest coverage?
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 7:48:11 AM
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The idea of media depending on government adverts for revenue haileti shangwe kapsa
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B.Timer
#4 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 9:14:42 AM
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alotoftalk wrote:
Shak wrote:
Government will no longer advertise through private media outlets but will only do so on my.gov; the new official government newsapaper. Major loss of revenue for our two major media houses since the inserts will be placed in the star and people daily.


This is a strategy bound to fail. What's the need of advertising if you're not getting the widest coverage?

Government ads are more of infomercials as opposed to ads for commercial gain.
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watesh
#5 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 10:44:51 AM
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This move by the government is bound to fail. They wont get as many eyeballs as the Daily Nation or Standard.
Swenani
#6 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 11:25:41 AM
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watesh wrote:
This move by the government is bound to fail. They wont get as many eyeballs as the Daily Nation or Standard.


Why will it fail, most of the guys who apply for government contracts are usually based in urban centres where The-Star and People daily are easily accesible.

GoK advertising especially procurement is to comply with the law not to reach wide coverage of bidders as the cartels are usually aware of the opportunities even before advertising
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mkeiy
#7 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 12:17:52 PM
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Swenani wrote:
watesh wrote:
This move by the government is bound to fail. They wont get as many eyeballs as the Daily Nation or Standard.


Why will it fail, most of the guys who apply for government contracts are usually based in urban centres where The-Star and People daily are easily accesible.

GoK advertising especially procurement is to comply with the law not to reach wide coverage of bidders as the cartels are usually aware of the opportunities even before advertising


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#8 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 1:35:56 PM
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Swenani wrote:
watesh wrote:
This move by the government is bound to fail. They wont get as many eyeballs as the Daily Nation or Standard.


Why will it fail, most of the guys who apply for government contracts are usually based in urban centres where The-Star and People daily are easily accesible.

GoK advertising especially procurement is to comply with the law not to reach wide coverage of bidders as the cartels are usually aware of the opportunities even before advertising


Very true
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#9 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2017 2:46:10 PM
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The dailies will lose out on the revenue associated with govt related paid articles.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:40:39 AM
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Radio has by far the widest coverage. Print media coverage is confined to a few urban centres.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:18:50 AM
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I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.
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mkeiy
#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:51:48 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.


If the government doesn't advertise on the dailies, wouldn't that save some money?

After all, the people who get those tenders, don't learn of them, from the dailies.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:29:05 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.


I agree. First it is discriminatory and then a reasonable government has an obligation to do all it can to reach the largest number of citizens with information and services.

Sometimes I wonder; is it possible for a government to be schizophrenic? I thought the earlier idea to lease government vehicles from the private sector made a lot of sense. One that reflected a fairly enlightened approach, namely, to get the best from the market and allow government to focus on what it is good at (which does NOT include running newspapers, repairing cars, building roads etc).

And now this.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:36:37 PM
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My.God
I hear eating is back at NYS.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#15 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 3:01:00 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.


I agree. First it is discriminatory and then a reasonable government has an obligation to do all it can to reach the largest number of citizens with information and services.

Sometimes I wonder; is it possible for a government to be schizophrenic? I thought the earlier idea to lease government vehicles from the private sector made a lot of sense. One that reflected a fairly enlightened approach, namely, to get the best from the market and allow government to focus on what it is good at (which does NOT include running newspapers, repairing cars, building roads etc).

And now this.


This is exactly what I had in mind, you have put it very well. Anyone will challenge this in court, especially if the govt opts to exclusively use media with inferior circulation like people and star
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 4:40:12 PM
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In today's Daily Nation, there ads from:
WARMA
KNBS
Ministry of Water & Sanitation
Meru Water
CBK
And many County govts.
mkenyan
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:01:44 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.


I agree. First it is discriminatory and then a reasonable government has an obligation to do all it can to reach the largest number of citizens with information and services.

Sometimes I wonder; is it possible for a government to be schizophrenic? I thought the earlier idea to lease government vehicles from the private sector made a lot of sense. One that reflected a fairly enlightened approach, namely, to get the best from the market and allow government to focus on what it is good at (which does NOT include running newspapers, repairing cars, building roads etc).

And now this.


This is exactly what I had in mind, you have put it very well. Anyone will challenge this in court, especially if the govt opts to exclusively use media with inferior circulation like people and star

1. why the two dailies? shouldn't they tender for the adverts from all the dailies? i am sure the star and people may if they win such a tender ensure that they have as wide a reach as the other two;
2. do those who cannot access internet have the capacity to deliver on government tenders? for employment opportunities and such isn't radio supplemented with a reference to the website for the same information better?
3. for the widest reach, isn't radio a better medium than newspapers?
4. would huduma center play a part in this too?
5. if there is a law that says the government must advertise in the kenyan newspapers (i think there is) then that should be repealed appropriately.
6. isn't the government single sourcing two daily newspapers for their advertisements to the disadvantage of all the other media itself unconstitutional?
Ericsson
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:43:51 PM
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majimaji wrote:

My.God
I hear eating is back at NYS.

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 01, 2017 2:19:44 AM
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majimaji wrote:

My.God
I hear eating is back at NYS.


eating hadnot stopped. they were taking a break by taking a small cup of water .now they continue eating
Swenani
#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 01, 2017 11:55:47 AM
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mkenyan wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
I have a feeling Okiyah Omtata will challenge this idea in court and win. This govt has a terrible case of coming up with poorly researched unconstitutional decisions that constantly get reversed and shows them for the incompetent lazy bunch that they are.


I agree. First it is discriminatory and then a reasonable government has an obligation to do all it can to reach the largest number of citizens with information and services.

Sometimes I wonder; is it possible for a government to be schizophrenic? I thought the earlier idea to lease government vehicles from the private sector made a lot of sense. One that reflected a fairly enlightened approach, namely, to get the best from the market and allow government to focus on what it is good at (which does NOT include running newspapers, repairing cars, building roads etc).

And now this.


This is exactly what I had in mind, you have put it very well. Anyone will challenge this in court, especially if the govt opts to exclusively use media with inferior circulation like people and star

1. why the two dailies? shouldn't they tender for the adverts from all the dailies? i am sure the star and people may if they win such a tender ensure that they have as wide a reach as the other two;
2. do those who cannot access internet have the capacity to deliver on government tenders? for employment opportunities and such isn't radio supplemented with a reference to the website for the same information better?
3. for the widest reach, isn't radio a better medium than newspapers?
4. would huduma center play a part in this too?
5. if there is a law that says the government must advertise in the kenyan newspapers (i think there is) then that should be repealed appropriately.
6. isn't the government single sourcing two daily newspapers for their advertisements to the disadvantage of all the other media itself unconstitutional?

1. There was no tendering, GOK gave an offer to all the 4 mainstream media(The star, PD, Nation and Standarrd) Nation and standard rejected the offer.
2.If you have no internet, I do not think you can deliver on government tenders.
3.How much will it cost to read all the tender specification and requirements on radio? Unless you are planning to advertise offpeak like 11 pm or midnight.
4.Huduma centres are only concentrated in a few counties.Some counties do not ahve huduma centres.
5.It's not single sourcing(The fact that there are two is not single sourcing) Anywa refer to point 1
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