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joga bonito		#1 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:48:15 AM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/12/2016 Posts: 19		Ivory dealers must be smilling, this will only push the price and demand for ivory higher
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Swenani		#2 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:09:23 AM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		joga bonito wrote: Ivory dealers must be smilling, this will only push the price and demand for ivory higher How? So if they are not burn't, the prices will come down? or what are your trying to say? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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masukuma		#3 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:51:11 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		I think we are at place in our existence where we are faced by counter intuitive evidence. In the US drug war has driven up drug prices and made the people with "distribution channels" rich! In europe - taking a different path to make sure that they even provide the drugs to addicts (clean syringes and all) has made it possible to almost kill the drug trade. It's counter intuitive!! Perhaps if We would collect all the ivory and then dump them in the market in China we would kill the trade. Coz its happening because someone has created an optimised distribution channel. I am unaware of a substance/product that has been killed by banning it. History has shown us that banning just creates other channels. the US had banned phombe for quite sometime - it never worked! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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joga bonito		#4 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:56:49 AM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/12/2016 Posts: 19		Swenani wrote: joga bonito wrote: Ivory dealers must be smilling, this will only push the price and demand for ivory higher How? So if they are not burn't, the prices will come down? or what are your trying to say? just saying they could sell them off then use the funds to upgrade conservation of our parks. Just burning alone won't change anything, 10 yrs to come we shall burn more ivories
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hardwood		#5 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:05:13 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		The point is that you burn 20B of ivory and get 40B in return from the international community for conservation. And your name and reputation goes up for saving the planet. Conversely, if you sell, you earn only 20B and go into the bad books of the international community as one who is encouraging ivory trade and extinction of species.
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kollabo		#6 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 11:50:39 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317		A court ruled in SA that private conservancies have the right to sell their ivory and use proceeds to fund conservation. SA govt stopped it pending appeal.
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Swenani		#7 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 12:48:15 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		masukuma wrote: I think we are at place in our existence where we are faced by counter intuitive evidence. In the US drug war has driven up drug prices and made the people with "distribution channels" rich! In europe - taking a different path to make sure that they even provide the drugs to addicts (clean syringes and all) has made it possible to almost kill the drug trade. It's counter intuitive!! Perhaps if We would collect all the ivory and then dump them in the market in China we would kill the trade. Coz its happening because someone has created an optimised distribution channel. I am unaware of a substance/product that has been killed by banning it. History has shown us that banning just creates other channels. the US had banned phombe for quite sometime - it never worked! How do we handle corruption using counter intuitive? Have everyone giving and taking bribes or legalize and tax it? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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TAZ		#8 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:04:43 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152		joga bonito wrote: Swenani wrote: joga bonito wrote: Ivory dealers must be smilling, this will only push the price and demand for ivory higher How? So if they are not burn't, the prices will come down? or what are your trying to say? just saying they could sell them off then use the funds to upgrade conservation of our parks. Just burning alone won't change anything, 10 yrs to come we shall burn more ivories The national and international trade in ivory of threatened species such as African elephants is illegal so where would the govt sell the Ivory, black market???
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kimanimsc		#9 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:09:21 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2015 Posts: 241 Location: Kahno		http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34313745 The burning is normally recycled probably with a few fresh ones.
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harrydre		#10 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:29:30 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo		I support the burn! i.am.back!!!!
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