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Pan Africa Insurance FY15 PBT Down 95%
Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 10:58:52 AM
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#2 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:03:12 AM
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The Board of Directors will not be recommending a dividend in respect of the 2015 results
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
enyands
#3 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:15:58 AM
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Something is missing here. Is pan Africa same as appolo insurance ama they are different?
whiteowl
#4 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:29:55 AM
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I'm starting to lose count now.All the same I think it will be a good play after it bottoms out.
shiznit
#5 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:58:04 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
I'm starting to lose count now.All the same I think it will be a good play after it bottoms out.



Same thinking here. Some of these insurance counters will be ripe investments when the bear turns. Looking forward to it.

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#6 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 12:30:45 PM
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shiznit wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
I'm starting to lose count now.All the same I think it will be a good play after it bottoms out.



Same thinking here. Some of these insurance counters will be ripe investments when the bear turns. Looking forward to it.


now you understand when I say cic did very well in the insurance sector but the game has always been profit warning and the next year 300% profit
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hisah
#7 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 1:32:05 PM
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EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.
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whiteowl
#8 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 2:16:46 PM
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hisah wrote:
EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.


Lets give it a generous PER of 25.That's a long way to fall!
ngapat
#9 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 4:11:21 PM
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Keeping off insurance companies. They profits are always volatile
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murchr
#10 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 4:35:08 PM
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hisah wrote:
EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.


What happened to this company?
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Impunity
#11 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 4:47:10 PM
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ngapat wrote:
Keeping off insurance companies. They profits are always volatile


Re-Ins is better!
Portfolio: Sold
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 5:20:10 PM
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The two companies that will do well in the listed insurance segment are;
CIC
Kenya Re
Jubilee.
The others be careful not to lose your money
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TheGeek
#13 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 10:20:45 PM
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murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.


What happened to this company?


Look at the results of where the previous Mboss is.
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murchr
#14 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 10:24:57 PM
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TheGeek wrote:
murchr wrote:
hisah wrote:
EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.


What happened to this company?


Look at the results of where the previous Mboss is.


Aha!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Boris Boyka
#15 Posted : Friday, March 18, 2016 11:44:11 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The two companies that will do well in the listed insurance segment are;
CIC
Kenya Re
Jubilee
.
The others be careful not to lose your money

Did our mathematics syllabus change?
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#16 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2016 10:00:21 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
hisah wrote:
EPS = -0.43. Long way down for the market to price in this reality check.


Lets give it a generous PER of 25.That's a long way to fall!

With negative earnings how do you calculate PER?
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#17 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2016 2:47:36 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The two companies that will do well in the listed insurance segment are;
CIC
Kenya Re
Jubilee
.
The others be careful not to lose your money

Did our mathematics syllabus change?

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#18 Posted : Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:21:24 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
The two companies that will do well in the listed insurance segment are;
CIC
Kenya Re
Jubilee
.
The others be careful not to lose your money

Did our mathematics syllabus change?


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#19 Posted : Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:15:16 PM
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As sanlam plan to buy more guys are laughing here. The main cause was the fair value of investment with a difference of 1.2b from 2014. Let it come down. I've been waiting for it for a long time
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#20 Posted : Sunday, March 20, 2016 4:02:15 PM
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I suspect they are already done buying . They were active a few months ago.
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