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How does/did your 3 year old compare
murchr
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:51:57 AM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:27:57 PM
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hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!
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Anti_Burglar
#3 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:41:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:


hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?
Othelo
#4 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:33:11 PM
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We cannot be all equal. Mine saa hii ndiye anasema mathogonanio (sp). Kazi kwa baby class teacher smile
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
nakujua
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:33:52 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

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hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.
masukuma
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:15:31 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
nakujua
#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:32:27 PM
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Othelo wrote:
We cannot be all equal. Mine saa hii ndiye anasema mathogonanio (sp). Kazi kwa baby class teacher smile

kazi ngumu those baby class teachers have, in 1 - 2 years they will know how to hold a pencil, write their names and if in an academy will be spelling and writing words based on the aa bu ku du ... alphabet
masukuma
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:45:41 PM
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if you think about it at that age children should be mastering their motor skills - drawing, coloring within borders, construction using lego e.t.c. feeding themselves using spoons e.t.c. - basically working out the cerebellum and related sections. The information the young lady has will be useful in a couple of years!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
murchr
#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:32:39 PM
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masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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nakujua
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 5:13:46 PM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.
nakujua
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 5:20:40 PM
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masukuma wrote:
if you think about it at that age children should be mastering their motor skills - drawing, coloring within borders, construction using lego e.t.c. feeding themselves using spoons e.t.c. - basically working out the cerebellum and related sections. The information the young lady has will be useful in a couple of years!


I don't see any difference, she associates those cards, the drawings and the letter patterns to something, the same way a 3 year old will know when to toa those pig sounds in peppa pig, or sing along the same.

The information the little girl has is of benefit now, the thing is the attention she gets, appears on some major show, very soon she will be doing an add here and there, maybe some kidogo appearance in a movie - and bang her future is sorted, at least the shell.
murchr
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:01:24 PM
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nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.


If you watched the clip, the mother said that hey bought her the chart in April, but were surprised at how fast she learnt it and more so remembered the symbols vs what the element does. A 3 year old is very picky in what interests she has even toys....The parents reaping from it is secondary.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:10:15 PM
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nakujua wrote:
masukuma wrote:
if you think about it at that age children should be mastering their motor skills - drawing, coloring within borders, construction using lego e.t.c. feeding themselves using spoons e.t.c. - basically working out the cerebellum and related sections. The information the young lady has will be useful in a couple of years!


I don't see any difference, she associates those cards, the drawings and the letter patterns to something, the same way a 3 year old will know when to toa those pig sounds in peppa pig, or sing along the same.

The information the little girl has is of benefit now, the thing is the attention she gets, appears on some major show, very soon she will be doing an add here and there, maybe some kidogo appearance in a movie - and bang her future is sorted, at least the shell.

So you are implying that this is another prospecting mission for the folks?
coz in your head (and by projection in the heads of the parents) appearing on Ellen's show is a ticket to something? it would be really interesting BUT IT'S NOT.... the only star there is Ellen! but those are just my heuristics tell me - nah! simply because there all manner of people appearing on shows around the US everyday and just because you have a good brain does not imply you will make a great TV/Movie actor... but those are just my heuristics... the future is wrong!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Rollins
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:53:55 PM
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masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
masukuma wrote:
if you think about it at that age children should be mastering their motor skills - drawing, coloring within borders, construction using lego e.t.c. feeding themselves using spoons e.t.c. - basically working out the cerebellum and related sections. The information the young lady has will be useful in a couple of years!


I don't see any difference, she associates those cards, the drawings and the letter patterns to something, the same way a 3 year old will know when to toa those pig sounds in peppa pig, or sing along the same.

The information the little girl has is of benefit now, the thing is the attention she gets, appears on some major show, very soon she will be doing an add here and there, maybe some kidogo appearance in a movie - and bang her future is sorted, at least the shell.

So you are implying that this is another prospecting mission for the folks?
coz in your head (and by projection in the heads of the parents) appearing on Ellen's show is a ticket to something? it would be really interesting BUT IT'S NOT.... the only star there is Ellen! but those are just my heuristics tell me - nah! simply because there all manner of people appearing on shows around the US everyday and just because you have a good brain does not imply you will make a great TV/Movie actor... but those are just my heuristics... the future is wrong!


Not a projection but the reality. The sad case of one Cole. introduced to professional acting at 10 but quit at 18 years after losing what he called ' His childhood years' in a professional career springs to mind.
Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
nakujua
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:08:02 PM
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murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.


If you watched the clip, the mother said that hey bought her the chart in April, but were surprised at how fast she learnt it and more so remembered the symbols vs what the element does. A 3 year old is very picky in what interests she has even toys....The parents reaping from it is secondary.

When I say reap I don't mean it with negative connotations - but the parents benefit and the kid benefits from the same.
But which parent buys a periodic table chart for a 3 year old, of course they had noticed that she has a good memory and a way with diagrams, thats why they tried the periodic table.

But again why would a parent introduce a periodic table to a 3 year old - I am sure recognition had something to do with it, and with recognition and interest comes some rewards, whether primary or secondary the rewards are still present.
nakujua
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:12:23 PM
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Rollins wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
masukuma wrote:
if you think about it at that age children should be mastering their motor skills - drawing, coloring within borders, construction using lego e.t.c. feeding themselves using spoons e.t.c. - basically working out the cerebellum and related sections. The information the young lady has will be useful in a couple of years!


I don't see any difference, she associates those cards, the drawings and the letter patterns to something, the same way a 3 year old will know when to toa those pig sounds in peppa pig, or sing along the same.

The information the little girl has is of benefit now, the thing is the attention she gets, appears on some major show, very soon she will be doing an add here and there, maybe some kidogo appearance in a movie - and bang her future is sorted, at least the shell.

So you are implying that this is another prospecting mission for the folks?
coz in your head (and by projection in the heads of the parents) appearing on Ellen's show is a ticket to something? it would be really interesting BUT IT'S NOT.... the only star there is Ellen! but those are just my heuristics tell me - nah! simply because there all manner of people appearing on shows around the US everyday and just because you have a good brain does not imply you will make a great TV/Movie actor... but those are just my heuristics... the future is wrong!


Not a projection but the reality. The sad case of one Cole. introduced to professional acting at 10 but quit at 18 years after losing what he called ' His childhood years' in a professional career springs to mind.

Thats my point, @masukuma it does not mean that appearing on the show one becomes a star, but it lays a good foundation - I don't know what the parent has in her mind, maybe its just for the fun of it, but there have been cases where parents put their kids through such for some other reasons, now taking a kid through the period table is not something an average parent does to their 3 year old everyday.
murchr
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:15:18 PM
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nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.


If you watched the clip, the mother said that hey bought her the chart in April, but were surprised at how fast she learnt it and more so remembered the symbols vs what the element does. A 3 year old is very picky in what interests she has even toys....The parents reaping from it is secondary.

When I say reap I don't mean it with negative connotations - but the parents benefit and the kid benefits from the same.
But which parent buys a periodic table chart for a 3 year old, of course they had noticed that she has a good memory and a way with diagrams, thats why they tried the periodic table.

But again why would a parent introduce a periodic table to a 3 year old - I am sure recognition had something to do with it, and with recognition and interest comes some rewards, whether primary or secondary the rewards are still present.


Those parents did, why they did it is a matter they know best, but from my corner I see parents who want to condition a kid to be a chemist or scientist. Just like those who buy a microphone for their kids or a piano..Alikiba told people that the mother discovered he could sing when he was 7 days old.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
nakujua
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 7:48:06 PM
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murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.


If you watched the clip, the mother said that hey bought her the chart in April, but were surprised at how fast she learnt it and more so remembered the symbols vs what the element does. A 3 year old is very picky in what interests she has even toys....The parents reaping from it is secondary.

When I say reap I don't mean it with negative connotations - but the parents benefit and the kid benefits from the same.
But which parent buys a periodic table chart for a 3 year old, of course they had noticed that she has a good memory and a way with diagrams, thats why they tried the periodic table.

But again why would a parent introduce a periodic table to a 3 year old - I am sure recognition had something to do with it, and with recognition and interest comes some rewards, whether primary or secondary the rewards are still present.


Those parents did, why they did it is a matter they know best, but from my corner I see parents who want to condition a kid to be a chemist or scientist. Just like those who buy a microphone for their kids or a piano..Alikiba told people that the mother discovered he could sing when he was 7 days old.

smile on the 7 day old kid, only a mother knows I guess - but I fully agree, at the end of the day majority of parents want whats good for their kids, and achieving the same can take different ways, but definitely trying to align your kid in a specific way at such a young age is always a risk and at times its just good to let them be, but different cases should be handled differently at the end of the day we are unique in our own ways.
murchr
#19 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 4:04:07 AM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Anti_Burglar
#20 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:02:58 AM
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nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:

...

hesabu itaisha draw.. wangu watajua baadaye!



I agree. After she knows it atafanyia nini?

I think huko majuu, being in the limelight can at times mean a very good pay.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly people are exactly the same... no one pays you for KNOWING THINGS! people pay you for stuff you do FOR THEM!


@nakujua, are you saying that this 3 year old knew she would be in the limelight? She even explains what those elements do.

Of course not her, I am sure she did not just discover the periodic table, it has taken some coaching on the same - but the parent will reap from the limelight and thus by association the kid also benefits.

@masukuma thats what the kid is doing, they are and will be paying her for the attention she generates, and that equals cash - especially huko majuu.

Didn't you see what the other teenage kid with the clock did.


If you watched the clip, the mother said that hey bought her the chart in April, but were surprised at how fast she learnt it and more so remembered the symbols vs what the element does. A 3 year old is very picky in what interests she has even toys....The parents reaping from it is secondary.

When I say reap I don't mean it with negative connotations - but the parents benefit and the kid benefits from the same.
But which parent buys a periodic table chart for a 3 year old, of course they had noticed that she has a good memory and a way with diagrams, thats why they tried the periodic table.

But again why would a parent introduce a periodic table to a 3 year old - I am sure recognition had something to do with it, and with recognition and interest comes some rewards, whether primary or secondary the rewards are still present.


Those parents did, why they did it is a matter they know best, but from my corner I see parents who want to condition a kid to be a chemist or scientist. Just like those who buy a microphone for their kids or a piano..Alikiba told people that the mother discovered he could sing when he was 7 days old.

smile on the 7 day old kid, only a mother knows I guess - but I fully agree, at the end of the day majority of parents want whats good for their kids, and achieving the same can take different ways, but definitely trying to align your kid in a specific way at such a young age is always a risk and at times its just good to let them be, but different cases should be handled differently at the end of the day we are unique in our own ways.


At this point in time that knowledge is not appropriate for that child. The adult handlers meanwhile get to be in the limelight. To paint it at its worst, this is child abuse.
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