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Caution doing business with I&M BAnk
Merit
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:16:11 AM
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I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.
Horton
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:22:17 AM
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Dont they all pay simple interest?
mawinder
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:34:45 AM
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Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.

Get in touch. ellyodhong@gmail.com
mnandii
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 2:32:29 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.

Get in touch. ellyodhong@gmail.com


@mawinder is alot of things and a lawyer too!! Quite impressive. smile

Methinks @merit should let go of this. We all make investments and some do go bad. If you got your principle back then thank God because going forward many investments are going to turn out quite ugly.
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nakujua
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:35:41 PM
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FDR ni nini?
mawinder
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:39:25 PM
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nakujua wrote:
FDR ni nini?

In full is fixed deposit receipt also known as fixed deposit account.
jerry
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:47:38 PM
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I concur with @mnandii, take your cash and run if you are not satisfied.
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mawinder
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:38:18 PM
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jerry wrote:
I concur with @mnandii, take your cash and run if you are not satisfied.

Wrong advice. Let a good advocate review your case and advice you. If indeed the bank erred you should be compensated. It is your money and bank must honor contracts.
enyands
#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:24:42 PM
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Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.



Having worked in a bank as accounts management officer for awhile I'll tell you two things

1. Banks are smart people . Whenever you sign those agreements for FDR there is a clause you over read and that clause had a hidden meaning of the word "simple interest rate "
I was called names when "breaking " their FDR after maturity . Some customers sued the bank but case went no where

2 seeking a lawyer is a good thing . Bearing in mind the 4m you are talking of no lawyer will tell you that there is no hope. If you were talking of 20,000 then they will be honest to you and tell you their cut will be much more than 20k you are fighting about .

In conclusion when they handed you that contract ,before you deposited the money go see a lawyer to Interpret those hidden words the banks like using in their contracts .if you have your brother who is a lawyer then go for it .but if you want someone to have a piece of your 4m then fight for it .the case will drag in those courts for ages . Now you are wise get you money and run. You can't beat banks .they have prosecutors , judges and even your lawyer in their payroll . All the best
mawinder
#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:58:39 PM
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enyands wrote:
Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.



Having worked in a bank as accounts management officer for awhile I'll tell you two things

1. Banks are smart people . Whenever you sign those agreements for FDR there is a clause you over read and that clause had a hidden meaning of the word "simple interest rate "
I was called names when "breaking " their FDR after maturity . Some customers sued the bank but case went no where

2 seeking a lawyer is a good thing . Bearing in mind the 4m you are talking of no lawyer will tell you that there is no hope. If you were talking of 20,000 then they will be honest to you and tell you their cut will be much more than 20k you are fighting about .

In conclusion when they handed you that contract ,before you deposited the money go see a lawyer to Interpret those hidden words the banks like using in their contracts .if you have your brother who is a lawyer then go for it .but if you want someone to have a piece of your 4m then fight for it .the case will drag in those courts for ages . Now you are wise get you money and run. You can't beat banks .they have prosecutors , judges and even your lawyer in their payroll . All the best

With due respect you may understand how banking works but your view on the judiciary,law and banks is based on pedestrian thinking and is wrong. Tomorrow I will post links on suits against banks which the banks have lost. Your blanket condemnation of magistrates,judges,prosecutors and lawyers in Kenya is unfounded.
enyands
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:47:50 PM
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mawinder wrote:
enyands wrote:
Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.



Having worked in a bank as accounts management officer for awhile I'll tell you two things

1. Banks are smart people . Whenever you sign those agreements for FDR there is a clause you over read and that clause had a hidden meaning of the word "simple interest rate "
I was called names when "breaking " their FDR after maturity . Some customers sued the bank but case went no where

2 seeking a lawyer is a good thing . Bearing in mind the 4m you are talking of no lawyer will tell you that there is no hope. If you were talking of 20,000 then they will be honest to you and tell you their cut will be much more than 20k you are fighting about .

In conclusion when they handed you that contract ,before you deposited the money go see a lawyer to Interpret those hidden words the banks like using in their contracts .if you have your brother who is a lawyer then go for it .but if you want someone to have a piece of your 4m then fight for it .the case will drag in those courts for ages . Now you are wise get you money and run. You can't beat banks .they have prosecutors , judges and even your lawyer in their payroll . All the best

With due respect you may understand how banking works but your view on the judiciary,law and banks is based on pedestrian thinking and is wrong. Tomorrow I will post links on suits against banks which the banks have lost. Your blanket condemnation of magistrates,judges,prosecutors and lawyers in Kenya is unfounded.



Well my judgement was based on the year 2000 to 2005 . Maybe things have changed now . I don't know since it's been a while . But during that time I never saw anyone of complaints being won . Maybe things have changed for now .I still stand to be corrected ..
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:12:37 PM
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Shame on you I've had an FDR with them for the last 2 years. I've put it in a monthly deposit, rolling over each month automatically. I get 9.25% which is automatically compounded each month.
Be smart, why lock it for that long a period and earn simple interest?
Chaka
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:21:15 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Shame on you I've had an FDR with them for the last 2 years. I've put it in a monthly deposit, rolling over each month automatically. I get 9.25% which is automatically compounded each month.
Be smart, why lock it for that long a period and earn simple interest?

What you are saying is that the application form states that if no withdrawal instructions are given,the principal+interest is automatically rolled over?
In this case might it not be better to put your cash for e,g in Zimele @ 9%,where the interest is compounded on a daily basis?
I am also surprised that the interest has remained @9.25% for 2 years..
mwekez@ji
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:41:18 AM
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Horton wrote:
Dont they all pay simple interest?

jano
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2015 10:13:54 AM
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why lock your money for 2yrs at 9.25% while most fund managers offer much better? like now if you shop around you will get 14-16%p.a for 1m plus
Chaka
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 16, 2015 11:26:40 AM
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jano wrote:
why lock your money for 2yrs at 9.25% while most fund managers offer much better? like now if you shop around you will get 14-16%p.a for 1m plus

Apart from Britam,who else is offering 15% or 16%?
Bigchick
#17 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:51:46 AM
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Merit wrote:
I deposited a large sum of money with I&M Bank. The interest they offered me was about 350 basis point less than what i was earning from a competitive Bank. This was put in a 2 year FDR earning 8% per annum. At the end of 2 years they did not compound the interest but paid me simple interest at 8%. The FDR clearly states the interest at 8% P.A. Very clear and no ambiguities. Yet they paid me 4m less. Can anybody recommend a good lawyer so that i can sue them.


It is always advisable to fix money in a bank for shorter periods like quarterly. This will enable one to get the best prevailing rate at any given time.

About your matter,have you factored the withholding tax?

Then I think your caution against I & M is not warranted at this time.My take is that you should have gotten to the bottom of the matter and when sure that they have wronged you,you bring it here.From your text it's not clear.What if you have a grudge against them and all you want is to spoil for them?What if it's you who did not understand the ts&cs?
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Chaka
#18 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:35:26 AM
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Does anyone here know whether Jubilee does fixed deposits(wealth management)?
Chaka
#19 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2015 5:51:32 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Does anyone here know whether Jubilee does fixed deposits(wealth management)?

I passed by Jubilee today and they haven't started this yet..
Bachuma Gate
#20 Posted : Friday, September 18, 2015 6:39:32 PM
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Try CIC or Pan African MM fund. Rates above 14%. Compounded monthly.
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