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Best intrest rates - need like 1.5m
zakayoo
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:31:37 AM
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wazuans which bank or institution has best interest rates ineed like 1.5m,my employer is goverment of kenya

thankx
Swenani
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 6:17:51 AM
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zakayoo wrote:
wazuans which bank or institution has best interest rates ineed like 1.5m,my employer is goverment of kenya

thankx


Central bank KBRR is currently at aprox 8
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Boris Boyka
#3 Posted : Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:49:06 PM
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zakayoo wrote:
wazuans which bank or institution has best interest rates ineed like 1.5m,my employer is goverment of kenya

thankx

walk into Equity,coop,kcb,barclays,stanchart,nic....in each ask for % of interest,processing fee,insurance fee. ask for the loan brochure enda nyumbani kaa chini and analyse all of them especially on instalments;some banks differ in instalments at the same rate and time!! You may enjoy lower intrest if your salary acc is in that bank o/w utapewa at higher rate.
1. Take an avg loan for short period:
- No wastage of funds
-Low total intrest payed.
-You can take more loan in small bits as opposed to a long period.
-Short recovery period esp incase of loss
* The opposite is true for large loan long period.
Wish you well
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Minor Mullah
#4 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 4:14:17 PM
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Has the KBR rate kicked in?
zakayoo
#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:50:23 PM
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Thankx all.KBRR nini
jomari78
#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:29:24 PM
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Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.
Swenani
#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:34:05 PM
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zakayoo wrote:
Thankx all.KBRR nini

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Boris Boyka
#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:13:51 PM
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jomari78 wrote:
Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.

Applause Applause Applause So long as you make cash join a sacco either contribute through check off or individual contributor. Lots of benefit. Am not sure of the law that said "you can only be in one sacco at a time" but seen ppl being in two saccos...Join two saccos
If you are on payslip you can obtain a payslip loan from one sacco and another loan from the other where you contribute shares through direct deposit....This means you have a huge cheaper loan and can pay using payslip remnants and side hassles while getting 6-11% on your deposits unlike for a bank where you have to prove your worth.......and get an expensive loan.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
mawinder
#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:25:36 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
jomari78 wrote:
Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.

Applause Applause Applause So long as you make cash join a sacco either contribute through check off or individual contributor. Lots of benefit. Am not sure of the law that said "you can only be in one sacco at a time" but seen ppl being in two saccos...Join two saccos
If you are on payslip you can obtain a payslip loan from one sacco and another loan from the other where you contribute shares through direct deposit....This means you have a huge cheaper loan and can pay using payslip remnants and side hassles while getting 6-11% on your deposits unlike for a bank where you have to prove your worth.......and get an expensive loan.

SACCO is way expensive than bank loans.Add issue of guarantors and long turn around times.Will never join a Sacco so that I can get a loan!!!!!!!!!
Boris Boyka
#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 5:40:21 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
jomari78 wrote:
Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.

Applause Applause Applause So long as you make cash join a sacco either contribute through check off or individual contributor. Lots of benefit. Am not sure of the law that said "you can only be in one sacco at a time" but seen ppl being in two saccos...Join two saccos
If you are on payslip you can obtain a payslip loan from one sacco and another loan from the other where you contribute shares through direct deposit....This means you have a huge cheaper loan and can pay using payslip remnants and side hassles while getting 6-11% on your deposits unlike for a bank where you have to prove your worth.......and get an expensive loan.

SACCO is way expensive than bank loans.Add issue of guarantors and long turn around times.Will never join a Sacco so that I can get a loan!!!!!!!!!

Expensive??how? What i know there are various loan categories...so am talking of normal loan 12% reducing balance. what are bank rates? Guarantors are your friends in the sacco and ni small time unless wewe ni mang'aa tu. Take your time and make the calculations and benefits utaona. I already did so. Saccos too allow early repayment. Am sure you were in HARAMBEE sacco that one was bogus...n beurocratic with lots of corruption. Brother look for afriend who's been in a saacco akueleze polepole.
1. A bank loan @ 16% p.a (minimum)
2. Sacco loan @ 12% p.a
if you take lets say 1M the diff in intrest paid will be in 200k-300k.
Imagine having money in MMF giving 6-11% and can't get cheaper loan on it when you can have the 6-11% from sacco and borrow cheaper loan at 3times. In a sacco you are using ppls shares as security for your loan!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
enyands
#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:00:27 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
jomari78 wrote:
Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.

Applause Applause Applause So long as you make cash join a sacco either contribute through check off or individual contributor. Lots of benefit. Am not sure of the law that said "you can only be in one sacco at a time" but seen ppl being in two saccos...Join two saccos
If you are on payslip you can obtain a payslip loan from one sacco and another loan from the other where you contribute shares through direct deposit....This means you have a huge cheaper loan and can pay using payslip remnants and side hassles while getting 6-11% on your deposits unlike for a bank where you have to prove your worth.......and get an expensive loan.

SACCO is way expensive than bank loans.Add issue of guarantors and long turn around times.Will never join a Sacco so that I can get a loan!!!!!!!!!

Expensive??how? What i know there are various loan categories...so am talking of normal loan 12% reducing balance. what are bank rates? Guarantors are your friends in the sacco and ni small time unless wewe ni mang'aa tu. Take your time and make the calculations and benefits utaona. I already did so. Saccos too allow early repayment. Am sure you were in HARAMBEE sacco that one was bogus...n beurocratic with lots of corruption. Brother look for afriend who's been in a saacco akueleze polepole.
1. A bank loan @ 16% p.a (minimum)
2. Sacco loan @ 12% p.a
if you take lets say 1M the diff in intrest paid will be in 200k-300k.
Imagine having money in MMF giving 6-11% and can't get cheaper loan on it when you can have the 6-11% from sacco and borrow cheaper loan at 3times. In a sacco you are using ppls shares as security for your loan!

I worked in a bank before . Every dayI could see how people are ripped off. As much as you can say banks loan are better I disagree respectfully . Try to take a loan with a bank and say yyou want to clear the loan earlier than agreed time . Do you know they will punish you with penalties for doing that, compared to sacco which is a reducing balance and no penalties . Sacco is the way to go
mawinder
#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:08:31 PM
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enyands wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
jomari78 wrote:
Though this may not be helpful to you in the short term, or maybe I'm speaking to the converted; being in govt myself, I always tell my younger colleagues to join the many highly reputable Sacco's that cater to govt employees & contribute meaningful amounts each month. You'd easily get that loan at 12% per annum or 1% per month, fixed rate without all those extortionate fees that banks levy, plus enjoy the benefit of dividends.

Applause Applause Applause So long as you make cash join a sacco either contribute through check off or individual contributor. Lots of benefit. Am not sure of the law that said "you can only be in one sacco at a time" but seen ppl being in two saccos...Join two saccos
If you are on payslip you can obtain a payslip loan from one sacco and another loan from the other where you contribute shares through direct deposit....This means you have a huge cheaper loan and can pay using payslip remnants and side hassles while getting 6-11% on your deposits unlike for a bank where you have to prove your worth.......and get an expensive loan.

SACCO is way expensive than bank loans.Add issue of guarantors and long turn around times.Will never join a Sacco so that I can get a loan!!!!!!!!!

Expensive??how? What i know there are various loan categories...so am talking of normal loan 12% reducing balance. what are bank rates? Guarantors are your friends in the sacco and ni small time unless wewe ni mang'aa tu. Take your time and make the calculations and benefits utaona. I already did so. Saccos too allow early repayment. Am sure you were in HARAMBEE sacco that one was bogus...n beurocratic with lots of corruption. Brother look for afriend who's been in a saacco akueleze polepole.
1. A bank loan @ 16% p.a (minimum)
2. Sacco loan @ 12% p.a
if you take lets say 1M the diff in intrest paid will be in 200k-300k.
Imagine having money in MMF giving 6-11% and can't get cheaper loan on it when you can have the 6-11% from sacco and borrow cheaper loan at 3times. In a sacco you are using ppls shares as security for your loan!

I worked in a bank before . Every dayI could see how people are ripped off. As much as you can say banks loan are better I disagree respectfully . Try to take a loan with a bank and say yyou want to clear the loan earlier than agreed time . Do you know they will punish you with penalties for doing that, compared to sacco which is a reducing balance and no penalties . Sacco is the way to go

Have you factored in the shares you need to qualify vis a vis me who walks to a bank only with a payslip??????????
Boris Boyka
#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:44:38 PM
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Lets take two ppl who commit 22k for 5years tuone.
1. A. takes 900k loan from commercial bank @16% p.a for 5years paying 22k monthly. at end of 5yrs
Total paid = 1320
Total gained = 900
Diff = -420k
2. B saves 22k in a sacco for 1yr= 264k. He takes a loan of 792k (3times shares) @12% p.a for 48 months pays 21 k monthly na ile 1k as shares to sacco. At end of five years
Total paid = 1008
Total earned ( 792+264+48) = 1104
Diff = - 4
NB:
Add on Dvdndns yearly compounded for the sacco guy.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
enyands
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 9:04:22 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Lets take two ppl who commit 22k for 5years tuone.
1. A. takes 900k loan from commercial bank @16% p.a for 5years paying 22k monthly. at end of 5yrs
Total paid = 1320
Total gained = 900
Diff = -420k
2. B saves 22k in a sacco for 1yr= 264k. He takes a loan of 792k (3times shares) @12% p.a for 48 months pays 21 k monthly na ile 1k as shares to sacco. At end of five years
Total paid = 1008
Total earned ( 792+264+48) = 1104
Diff = - 4
NB:
Add on Dvdndns yearly compounded for the sacco guy.

@ mawinder , look at the simple math above and see ur savings . U got to be patient though and u will save . But if you got no patience in building ur shares go to bank get ripped and keep getting ripped . The banks feed on greed and impatience when it comes to loans ...
nakujua
#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:43:13 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Lets take two ppl who commit 22k for 5years tuone.
1. A. takes 900k loan from commercial bank @16% p.a for 5years paying 22k monthly. at end of 5yrs
Total paid = 1320
Total gained = 900
Diff = -420k
2. B saves 22k in a sacco for 1yr= 264k. He takes a loan of 792k (3times shares) @12% p.a for 48 months pays 21 k monthly na ile 1k as shares to sacco. At end of five years
Total paid = 1008
Total earned ( 792+264+48) = 1104
Diff = - 4
NB:
Add on Dvdndns yearly compounded for the sacco guy.

Is there a way to factor in that year the person in the sacco takes to raise that amount, compared to the bank loan where the individual gets the same almost instantly.

I think for a home improvement or a loan for personal use the sacco will do, but for a money generating project the one year might be too costly.

Plus what happens to the shares, considering that saccos have unlimited shares for members - won't one have to sell them at a lower rate.
african coloner
#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:19:00 PM
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zakayoo wrote:
wazuans which bank or institution has best interest rates ineed like 1.5m,my employer is goverment of kenya

thankx


They are all the same to be honest. some will say 15% but if you add the charges comes to 18%. Some will even deduct the same money they are lending you saying it's loans charges. The average is 18% per anum
ayushnehra
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:26:50 PM
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zakayoo wrote:
wazuans which bank or institution has best interest rates ineed like 1.5m,my employer is goverment of kenya

thankx


Saccos with the loans..!!
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mawinder
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:31:11 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Lets take two ppl who commit 22k for 5years tuone.
1. A. takes 900k loan from commercial bank @16% p.a for 5years paying 22k monthly. at end of 5yrs
Total paid = 1320
Total gained = 900
Diff = -420k
2. B saves 22k in a sacco for 1yr= 264k. He takes a loan of 792k (3times shares) @12% p.a for 48 months pays 21 k monthly na ile 1k as shares to sacco. At end of five years
Total paid = 1008
Total earned ( 792+264+48) = 1104
Diff = - 4
NB:
Add on Dvdndns yearly compounded for the sacco guy.

Is there a way to factor in that year the person in the sacco takes to raise that amount, compared to the bank loan where the individual gets the same almost instantly.

I think for a home improvement or a loan for personal use the sacco will do, but for a money generating project the one year might be too costly.

Plus what happens to the shares, considering that saccos have unlimited shares for members - won't one have to sell them at a lower rate.

His calculation is not practical as you still contribute to the Sacco shares even after taking the loan at the same rate and not 1k as he puts it.Take the share contributions and add to the loan repayment for the bank loan and see that banks are cheaper
Boris Boyka
#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:43:05 AM
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mawinder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Lets take two ppl who commit 22k for 5years tuone.
1. A. takes 900k loan from commercial bank @16% p.a for 5years paying 22k monthly. at end of 5yrs
Total paid = 1320
Total gained = 900
Diff = -420k
2. B saves 22k in a sacco for 1yr= 264k. He takes a loan of 792k (3times shares) @12% p.a for 48 months pays 21 k monthly na ile 1k as shares to sacco. At end of five years
Total paid = 1008
Total earned ( 792+264+48) = 1104
Diff = - 4
NB:
Add on Dvdndns yearly compounded for the sacco guy.

Is there a way to factor in that year the person in the sacco takes to raise that amount, compared to the bank loan where the individual gets the same almost instantly.

I think for a home improvement or a loan for personal use the sacco will do, but for a money generating project the one year might be too costly.

Plus what happens to the shares, considering that saccos have unlimited shares for members - won't one have to sell them at a lower rate.

His calculation is not practical as you still contribute to the Sacco shares even after taking the loan at the same rate and not 1k as he puts it.Take the share contributions and add to the loan repayment for the bank loan and see that banks are cheaper

@nakujua as it was said up there in the first year or so months (short term) benefits are few but subsequently benefits come in full force. Now the two are at Year 6 with A having around 345k ( dvdnd @ 7.5% p.a compounded) he can access a loan of 1,035,000 @ 12% p.a compare to B now taking same 1,035,000 @ 18% p.a as confirmed avg loan rate hapo juu.If you take other saccos like mwalimu who have been giving over 10% dvdns over the years (higher than some stocks returns,insurance policies & most MMF's) you are better of putting you cash in the sacco and guarantee safety plus avg 8% returns annually. Make the calculations again with 10% returns in dvdnd and 18% for bank loan...ata kama utaongeza inflation and time value of money.....sacco guy is better mid to long term. Hope you read on when leaving a sacco what goes on...You don't have to sell @ premium unless uko na haraka saana.when you want to leave the sacco You apply and get all your deposits after like 60 days ,share capital ndio you transfer or retain which is like 5k only.
@Mawinder am sorry to say you must be ignorant ! what do you mean by practical? I have taken loans in both , i have friends and colleagues who have taken in both cases, i have sat down with brochures and made calculations concerning loans thus am talking from practical point of view. Also that 1k was a good example. what was key that huoni is that the two MUST be commiting same amount so that calculating the benefits we say they put in (invested) same amount. You can even change so that he uses 19 k on loan and 3k as shares(loan amount reduces but money at sacco increases) so long as total = 22k
I even talked of a plan of joining two saccos to enable you get a much bigger loan so that approval and guarantors won't be difficult! I say again take your time go do the maths...don't shy off ati sacco' ni za umaskini.
NB
By shares i mean total of share capital and deposits. but in the sacco threads utaona the differences
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:55:47 AM
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mawinder wrote:

His calculation is not practical as you still contribute to the Sacco shares even after taking the loan at the same rate and not 1k as he puts it.Take the share contributions and add to the loan repayment for the bank loan and see that banks are cheaper

You either have never joined a SACCO or you went to one that was unfair to members.

They do allow a reduction of share contribution anytime. But they do have minimums. My minimum is at 2K

Don't forget that the amount for shares is still your money, not the SACCO's money
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