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Beauty, sex and morality
tycho
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:49:32 PM
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While beauty may lie in the hands of the beholder, I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection. This makes sex the powerful symbol it is, nay, the powerful tool and weapon, and object of obsession that it is.

Certainly justice and morality need to be beautiful. That is, our ideas of the beautiful guide our ideas of what's moral. And so do our day to day actions depict and intend to achieve beauty.

But of late I have noted that the experience of beauty has become increasingly scarce. Firstly, beauty is risky to encounter or have. Envy, and jealousy rule most of us. And this inevitably leads to war. Beauty demands wisdom; and wisdom demands lots of work and time, and time so far is a scarce commodity. Finally, beauty demands strength and strength is built up, a matter that's not for the faint hearted.

Because the demands of beauty are great, and the masses weak and ignorant then the kind of morality ascribed is prohibitive and harsh. Beauty is shunned and either the male or the female is repressed. Stories of Wangu wa Makeri, sexism in the body politic, men stripping women on the streets, pornography, all these are examples of how the unconscious, and perhaps conscious repression of the beautiful are unjust and morbid. To avoid this we need to re-educate ourselves.


Muriel
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:24:05 PM
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tycho wrote:
While beauty may lie in the hands of the beholder, I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection. This makes sex the powerful symbol it is, nay, the powerful tool and weapon, and object of obsession that it is.

Certainly justice and morality need to be beautiful. That is, our ideas of the beautiful guide our ideas of what's moral. And so do our day to day actions depict and intend to achieve beauty.

But of late I have noted that the experience of beauty has become increasingly scarce. Firstly, beauty is risky to encounter or have. Envy, and jealousy rule most of us. And this inevitably leads to war. Beauty demands wisdom; and wisdom demands lots of work and time, and time so far is a scarce commodity. Finally, beauty demands strength and strength is built up, a matter that's not for the faint hearted.

Because the demands of beauty are great, and the masses weak and ignorant then the kind of morality ascribed is prohibitive and harsh. Beauty is shunned and either the male or the female is repressed. Stories of Wangu wa Makeri, sexism in the body politic, men stripping women on the streets, pornography, all these are examples of how the unconscious, and perhaps conscious repression of the beautiful are unjust and morbid. To avoid this we need to re-educate ourselves.




Symbols.
symbols
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:40:51 PM
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...............................................?
..............Conscious mind <-> Subconscious mind
................................................|
................................................v
..............................Unconscious mind
Muriel
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:44:56 PM
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What are the symbols and how are they interpreted?
symbols
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:08:37 PM
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Muriel wrote:
What are the symbols and how are they interpreted?


The arrows are interactions.The rest,be still...seek and...
Swenani
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:16:07 PM
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Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Muriel
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:34:02 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?
Muriel
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:35:50 PM
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symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
What are the symbols and how are they interpreted?


The arrows are interactions.The rest,be still...seek and...


and what?
symbols
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:46:53 PM
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Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
What are the symbols and how are they interpreted?


The arrows are interactions.The rest,be still...seek and...


and what?


Find out.
Muriel
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:57:12 PM
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symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
symbols wrote:
Muriel wrote:
What are the symbols and how are they interpreted?


The arrows are interactions.The rest,be still...seek and...


and what?


Find out.


I can't be still.
Swenani
#11 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:18:09 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Muriel
#12 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:02:47 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?
Swenani
#13 Posted : Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:45:33 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?

smile smile smile

She is the only one who can complete me!
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#14 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 7:26:27 AM
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symbols wrote:
...............................................?
..............Conscious mind <-> Subconscious mind
................................................|
................................................v
..............................Unconscious mind


The question mark is filled by the 'superconscious mind'.
tycho
#15 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 7:28:05 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?

smile smile smile

She is the only one who can complete me!


We can call this the 'swenani paradox' where an idea feels so right, but is so wrong.
Muriel
#16 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 8:01:43 AM
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tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?

smile smile smile

She is the only one who can complete me!


We can call this the 'swenani paradox' where an idea feels so right, but is so wrong.


They have not had congress, physical, spiritual, mental, psychological, emotional as far as I can tell. Yet they are complementary.

Indeed, a paradox.
tycho
#17 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 8:55:44 AM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?

smile smile smile

She is the only one who can complete me!


We can call this the 'swenani paradox' where an idea feels so right, but is so wrong.


They have not had congress, physical, spiritual, mental, psychological, emotional as far as I can tell. Yet they are complementary.

Indeed, a paradox.


Sometimes I see a girl and similar ideas run in my head.
Muriel
#18 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 10:18:12 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Just passing by to say hello to Muriel!!!!


Hello, brother.

Why are you in a hurry?


I'm looking for Kysse



Quote:
I also realize that all beholders subscribe to a pattern of experiencing or seeking the experience of completion through a union of the masculine and feminine, and according to nature and its perfection.


Is my brother right, brother?

And why only just Kysse?

smile smile smile

She is the only one who can complete me!


We can call this the 'swenani paradox' where an idea feels so right, but is so wrong.


They have not had congress, physical, spiritual, mental, psychological, emotional as far as I can tell. Yet they are complementary.

Indeed, a paradox.


Sometimes I see a girl and similar ideas run in my head.


What exactly are these ideas in your head when you see, or read of, or hear from Kysse?
tycho
#19 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 11:51:26 AM
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I tell myself, 'Look at that beauty! So much light! I think I can find the keys to my heart there!'
Muriel
#20 Posted : Friday, November 21, 2014 11:58:24 AM
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Title of this thread.

What morality is there when 2 men think the same of 1 lady?

Especially seeing that 'think' is 'mind'?
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