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Why only one CDSC account?
Mainat
#1 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:16:52 AM
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I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?
Sehemu ndio nyumba
obiero
#2 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:23:16 AM
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Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

Mainat I expect better of you.. Why not have two IDs? Its painfully obvious one person only needs one CDS.. Unless there will be two or more central depositories. Plus the element of having to sell before openin a CDS with another broker is false.. Maybe u were conned so that they obtain commission. I hold three CDS accounts in different brokerage firms, though only one is active.. I also have a CDS in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana & Nigeria

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#3 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:33:38 AM
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Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

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Mainat
#4 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:39:59 AM
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Engage grey matter afore...
As you rightly point out, you can NOT run all three accounts at one time. The example relating to bank accounts is deliberate...Only one central bank and settlement system.

obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

Mainat I expect better of you.. Why not have two IDs? Its painfully obvious one person only needs one CDS.. Unless there will be two or more central depositories. Plus the element of having to sell before openin a CDS with another broker is false.. Maybe u were conned so that they obtain commission. I hold three CDS accounts in different brokerage firms, though only one is active.. I also have a CDS in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana & Nigeria

Sehemu ndio nyumba
obiero
#5 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:45:13 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Engage grey matter afore...
As you rightly point out, you can run all three accounts at one time. The example relating to bank accounts is deliberate...Only one central bank and settlement system.

obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

Mainat I expect better of you.. Why not have two IDs? Its painfully obvious one person only needs one CDS.. Unless there will be two or more central depositories. Plus the element of having to sell before openin a CDS with another broker is false.. Maybe u were conned so that they obtain commission. I hold three CDS accounts in different brokerage firms, though only one is active.. I also have a CDS in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana & Nigeria


Though the database has a primary key of national ID, implying double application in IPO/PPO shall be noted

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patrazi
#6 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:59:38 AM
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Am I a victim. I applied for Nse Ipo using my cds a/c and a friend whom we hold a joint a/c applied for minimum using the joint cds. Are we likely to be disqualified?
sparkly
#7 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:13:53 PM
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Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?


Why do you need more than 1 CDSC account, other than small time Ukoras.
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Mainat
#8 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:00:30 PM
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Why do you need more than 1 CDSC account, other than small time Ukoras.[/quote]

I'd like the option of an account for longterm investments that requires a reputable broker who doesn't give care about responding promptly but sends a monthly statement and an account for IPOs and short-term speculative investments
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mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:09:16 PM
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patrazi wrote:
Am I a victim. I applied for Nse Ipo using my cds a/c and a friend whom we hold a joint a/c applied for minimum using the joint cds. Are we likely to be disqualified?

No.
mwekez@ji
#10 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:11:05 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Engage grey matter afore...
As you rightly point out, you can NOT run all three accounts at one time. The example relating to bank accounts is deliberate...Only one central bank and settlement system.

obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

Mainat I expect better of you.. Why not have two IDs? Its painfully obvious one person only needs one CDS.. Unless there will be two or more central depositories. Plus the element of having to sell before openin a CDS with another broker is false.. Maybe u were conned so that they obtain commission. I hold three CDS accounts in different brokerage firms, though only one is active.. I also have a CDS in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana & Nigeria



@Mainat, all the three can be active at the same time, from experience.
mwekez@ji
#11 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:13:12 PM
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Mainat wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Why do you need more than 1 CDSC account, other than small time Ukoras.


I'd like the option of an account for longterm investments that requires a reputable broker who doesn't give care about responding promptly but sends a monthly statement and an account for IPOs and short-term speculative investments


If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport
Mainat
#12 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:31:22 PM
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If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport[/quote]

Okay-I doubt if one broker will allow. There is also a conceptual/practical question. Why should I not be able to run with more than 1 CDSC account transparently? What is wrong with me putting through two orders with different brokers?
Sehemu ndio nyumba
obiero
#13 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:40:00 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Mainat wrote:
Engage grey matter afore...
As you rightly point out, you can NOT run all three accounts at one time. The example relating to bank accounts is deliberate...Only one central bank and settlement system.

obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I can hold 43 bank accounts, umpteeth loans, but CDSC says I can only operate one CDSC account with one broker at a time?
What is this nonsense about? Why do I have sell my shares before I can open a CDSC account with another broker?

Mainat I expect better of you.. Why not have two IDs? Its painfully obvious one person only needs one CDS.. Unless there will be two or more central depositories. Plus the element of having to sell before openin a CDS with another broker is false.. Maybe u were conned so that they obtain commission. I hold three CDS accounts in different brokerage firms, though only one is active.. I also have a CDS in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Ghana & Nigeria



@Mainat, all the three can be active at the same time, from experience.

I meant, I do not actively trade on the other two. But I could if I want

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mwekez@ji
#14 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:40:20 PM
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Mainat wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport


Okay-I doubt if one broker will allow. There is also a conceptual/practical question. Why should I not be able to run with more than 1 CDSC account transparently? What is wrong with me putting through two orders with different brokers?


A while back my broker recommended i do that (ID/PP accounts). Yeah, a while back during Kengen IPO. Try out yours they may.

On the conceptual/practical question, hapo sasa, Think

On 3rd matter, you can put through two orders with different brokers. Others may give their experience
obiero
#15 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:44:24 PM
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Mainat wrote:
If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport


Okay-I doubt if one broker will allow. There is also a conceptual/practical question. Why should I not be able to run with more than 1 CDSC account transparently? What is wrong with me putting through two orders with different brokers?
[/quote]
Unbelievable.. Hapa inaokena tuko na problematic student.. Now, if a packet of milk costs 45bob at both Nakumatt and Uchumi, why would a shopper want to enter Nakumatt and buy one packet, then enter Uchumi for the other packet??? There is simply no reason to have more than one CDS..

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mwekez@ji
#16 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:55:28 PM
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obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport


Okay-I doubt if one broker will allow. There is also a conceptual/practical question. Why should I not be able to run with more than 1 CDSC account transparently? What is wrong with me putting through two orders with different brokers?

Unbelievable.. Hapa inaokena tuko na problematic student.. Now, if a packet of milk costs 45bob at both Nakumatt and Uchumi, why would a shopper want to enter Nakumatt and buy one packet, then enter Uchumi for the other packet??? There is simply no reason to have more than one CDS..

@obiero, why do people have more than one bank account? Apply to CDS
obiero
#17 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:14:16 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mainat wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
If you want all 2 accounts with the same broker, open one with ID and the other with Passport


Okay-I doubt if one broker will allow. There is also a conceptual/practical question. Why should I not be able to run with more than 1 CDSC account transparently? What is wrong with me putting through two orders with different brokers?

Unbelievable.. Hapa inaokena tuko na problematic student.. Now, if a packet of milk costs 45bob at both Nakumatt and Uchumi, why would a shopper want to enter Nakumatt and buy one packet, then enter Uchumi for the other packet??? There is simply no reason to have more than one CDS..

@obiero, why do people have more than one bank account? Apply to CDS

The logic does not apply.. Those are two different entities. Anyway, most individuals who have more than one bank account are confused! For a company, it makes sense since they may be suppliers to major clients who prefer to pay through their chosen bank

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Mainat
#18 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:17:33 PM
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Obiero-a response from you is not a must...

Some of our failures as a nation is few question our many odd ways of doing things and a love of "shortcuts".
Had a similar response when I asked a bank why it requires me to go to a branch to open an account in 2014 when we have agents, email and the like
Sehemu ndio nyumba
mwekez@ji
#19 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:28:30 PM
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Obiro, SMH
patrazi
#20 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:27:51 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
patrazi wrote:
Am I a victim. I applied for Nse Ipo using my cds a/c and a friend whom we hold a joint a/c applied for minimum using the joint cds. Are we likely to be disqualified?

No.

Thanks for the response.
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