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kanyimwa		#1 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2009 6:45:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/20/2008 Posts: 83		A close friend of mine got into this business in mid October 2008 as a first timer. He bought 500 day old chicks (layers). He had been promised that they should have started laying within 5 months,i.e. mid February 2009. Three months later (after feb 09),nothing has happened. The guy is still anxiously waiting. People have resulted to giving several theories as to why the delay. He was advised that changing the feed to layers mash would 'stimulate' the chicks to start laying. He changed the feed from growers mash to layers mash but still,nothing has happened. Of late,a friend vet doctor has advised that they could be delaying to lay because they are congested. Others,are saying that he should slaughter one to see if he could find a ripe ovary. When I met my friend and explained to me the predicament,I thought of sharing it out here at SK for SKerians who have been at it to give ideas or share especially on the following: The actual period he should wait before seeing the 1st egg; how to clearly determine they are ready; etc etc Kindly inform The definition of your enemy is: 'Your former friend'
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charlow		#2 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2009 2:06:00 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2008 Posts: 6		I dont know exatly how long it takes for the layers to start laying (6months-1yr) but what i know is that if you dont feed them well when they are young they might disappoint you. Maybe thats the mistake your friend made.Ask him/her to be patient Enjoy while you can
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Djinn		#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:28:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565		Dude/Babe,there was post on poultry farming a while back - pls check the archives (search up there). Other than that,do go ahead and slaughter one of them...in front of all the others...then make it clear what you need them to do! The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
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bird_man		#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2009 11:39:00 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi		Hi, I rared some 300 layers a while back but sold after post election violence when food prices doubled and demand fell.First,I hope he got the chics from good agents/hatchery.If he did........they should lay by 6th month latest.Some of mine took 5months and others 6 months. It VERY much depends on the kind and amount of food you give them.Also the weather conditions.Cold conditions delay their laying-like mine were in Nyeri and it was so cold! He should be very worried if he bought them in October and they are still not showing signs. The course of the world is changed by those who dare dream! Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Chaka		#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 10:30:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114		@bird_man, Once they start laying,how many eggs do they lay per day and after how long do they retire?
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bird_man		#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:26:00 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi		@Chaka......Laying depends very much on the right food(layers mash),enough of it......and temperature.When mine were well fed they could lay 270ish eggs per day.......around 88%-93% of the total number per day. The course of the world is changed by those who dare dream! Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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leona		#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:15:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/1/2008 Posts: 1,432 Location: Marsabit		@birdman What are some of the best places/agents to buy the chics? Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't.. Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
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bird_man		#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:54:00 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi		@Leona Are you still interested in the email adds?jnduriri@yahoo.com Otherwise,you can get the day old chics at Muguku Farm(Kikuyu town),Kenchic (it's at Libra Hse) along Mbsa road,also Sigma (I hear some place near Karen i think).I tried getting from Muguku and Kenchic but the demand for layers there was too too high such that if you want chics in December 2009 you had to order for them in May 2009!.......there was however no problem with broiler chics and you can get them within a week.I was impatient so I went to some agent near Wakulima Market and they almost conned me......two months later still no chics! So i gave up and ordered some from an agent in Nyeri which took 30days.I'm not sure whether the demand has changed since them,lakini ya layers is way too high.There is also some place in Kiambu i have heard about where they can sell you the chics and even give you tu-books on the same and cost estimates. The course of the world is changed by those who dare dream! Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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samsa		#9 Posted : Thursday, May 07, 2009 5:37:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/7/2009 Posts: 155		@birdman, Thanks for expressing interest to share what you know. Contemplating to start this along Msa Rd. Where can I get material to educate myself? Which type can give you fast cash? Layers or Broilers? Use what you have,look for what to save
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leona		#10 Posted : Friday, May 08, 2009 7:21:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 8/1/2008 Posts: 1,432 Location: Marsabit		@bird man Thanks for the info,much appreciated. I will get back to you on the addresses,but for now..am workimg on another batch i got from a buddy..if it works,then i'll try yours too. Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't.. Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
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