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kiash
#1 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 11:36:54 AM
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As long as I can remember, I have seen several companies replacing the Kenyan managers with the foreign expats in Kenyan firms. However I do not know how they rate. There was SABMiller who left after, and then I remember EABL with Mahinda and then he left, a Nigerian took over and now I guess it’s a jungu. Then came Telkom Kenya /Orange where I read about some French taking over managerial positions held by Kenyans. There is also KQ who are fond of the same and of late there has been Equity bank who apparently preferred Diaspora Kenyans to foreigners. They seem to have changed.
How can you rate these expats managers on the local market? Can they deliver?
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Swenani
#2 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 1:41:21 PM
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kiash wrote:
As long as I can remember, I have seen several companies replacing the Kenyan managers with the foreign expats in Kenyan firms. However I do not know how they rate. There was SABMiller who left after, and then I remember EABL with Mahinda and then he left, a Nigerian took over and now I guess it’s a jungu. Then came Telkom Kenya /Orange where I read about some French taking over managerial positions held by Kenyans. There is also KQ who are fond of the same and of late there has been Equity bank who apparently preferred Diaspora Kenyans to foreigners. They seem to have changed.
How can you rate these expats managers on the local market? Can they deliver?


All corporates exploit the public hence its commonsense that you should not have one of the public(read local) to leadership positions to oversee the exploitation.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Buster
#3 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 1:56:58 PM
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Swenani wrote:
kiash wrote:
As long as I can remember, I have seen several companies replacing the Kenyan managers with the foreign expats in Kenyan firms. However I do not know how they rate. There was SABMiller who left after, and then I remember EABL with Mahinda and then he left, a Nigerian took over and now I guess it’s a jungu. Then came Telkom Kenya /Orange where I read about some French taking over managerial positions held by Kenyans. There is also KQ who are fond of the same and of late there has been Equity bank who apparently preferred Diaspora Kenyans to foreigners. They seem to have changed.
How can you rate these expats managers on the local market? Can they deliver?


All corporates exploit the public hence its commonsense that you should not have one of the public(read local) to leadership positions to oversee the exploitation.


Word.
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mukiha
#4 Posted : Friday, February 14, 2014 2:20:35 PM
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Despite all your qualifications and wealth of experience, if we don't trust you, we'll not let you run our company.

It's that simple!

Not so long ago, all major foreign companies in this country were ran by foreigners from their home countries.

BTW; why did you forget the Green Giant?
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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muganda
#5 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 2:50:12 PM
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Is it getting tricky for Expats in Kenya? At least in NGOs
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omhangla
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 6:36:54 AM
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Hapa I know many NGOs that will be in the read.
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kaka2za
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:16:28 AM
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This could backfire big time!
Kenya is the source of most of the NGO expatriates in this region followed by Ethiopia.

If you live in a glass house,dont throw stones.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Thiong'o
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:28:59 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
This could backfire big time!
Kenya is the source of most of the NGO expatriates in this region followed by Ethiopia.

If you live in a glass house,dont throw stones.


True! This will go the South Sudan way and you can see how the international media has picked it!
Kenya launches crackdown on foreign charity workers http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36587518
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Swenani
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:14:01 AM
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Thiong'o wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
This could backfire big time!
Kenya is the source of most of the NGO expatriates in this region followed by Ethiopia.

If you live in a glass house,dont throw stones.


True! This will go the South Sudan way and you can see how the international media has picked it!
Kenya launches crackdown on foreign charity workers http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36587518


From my pedestrian view, I think the gaarment is doing the right thing
1. No expats are being chased,only asked to justify their continued stay here
2. The hiring organization should justify/prove that there is no available local skill
3. There should be skill transfer
4.The pay should be equitable.

What's wrong with the above, This is what any sensible gaarment should be doing....protecting jobs for locals
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Thiong'o
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:50:06 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Thiong'o wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
This could backfire big time!
Kenya is the source of most of the NGO expatriates in this region followed by Ethiopia.

If you live in a glass house,dont throw stones.


True! This will go the South Sudan way and you can see how the international media has picked it!
Kenya launches crackdown on foreign charity workers http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36587518


From my pedestrian view, I think the gaarment is doing the right thing
1. No expats are being chased,only asked to justify their continued stay here
2. The hiring organization should justify/prove that there is no available local skill
3. There should be skill transfer
4.The pay should be equitable.

What's wrong with the above, This is what any sensible gaarment should be doing....protecting jobs for locals


There’s nothing wrong with the circular, but my point is that the implementation and/or discussion on same will most likely generate more heat than light like in the scenario below:

http://wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=30380
https://radiotamazuj.org...kers-amid-hunger-crisis
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