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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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Hallo Wazuans,
a Masai family wants to sell me 1 acre in Rongai @ 4M, which seems to be the going price. Apparently, they have a huge inherited parcel (tens of acres), with no title but a NUMBER.Title will be issued once my piece gets subdivided. Beacons are on sight. Transaction will be through a lawywer. So far, i only have negative reports about Kajiado lands office.Corruption and corruption.It seems even with utmost due diligence, you can never be sure. Anybody with any experiences or advice?
Thanks in advance
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2011 Posts: 108
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Rapudox wrote:Hallo Wazuans,
a Masai family wants to sell me 1 acre in Rongai @ 4M, which seems to be the going price. Apparently, they have a huge inherited parcel (tens of acres), with no title but a NUMBER.Title will be issued once my piece gets subdivided. Beacons are on sight. Transaction will be through a lawywer. So far, i only have negative reports about Kajiado lands office.Corruption and corruption.It seems even with utmost due diligence, you can never be sure. Anybody with any experiences or advice?
Thanks in advance It's unlikely a lawyer will advice you to buy a piece of land without a title. Presence of 'beacons' does not mean they own the land. If the price they are quoting is the going price for an acre - why can't you buy an acre from a seller with a title?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Ndaragwa, The land is vast and is in the name of the family. I understood, most huge land owners only go for titles when subdividing...is this true? Of course beacons mean nothing. I have heard about Kajiado, that even if everything went smooth and title was issued, there could still be issues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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@Rapudox, 4.0M is a lot of money and as Ndaragwa says, if that's the price, then go for similar land with a title. Family land can snowball into issues and as an outsider its best to keep off. If they had a mother title and there is either an administrator/trustee of the land that would be easier. BTW where is that land in Rongai? "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Gathige..thx for the input. The land is in Rangau.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi
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Rapudox wrote:Hallo Wazuans,
a Masai family wants to sell me 1 acre in Rongai @ 4M, which seems to be the going price. Apparently, they have a huge inherited parcel (tens of acres), with no title but a NUMBER.Title will be issued once my piece gets subdivided. Beacons are on sight. Transaction will be through a lawywer. So far, i only have negative reports about Kajiado lands office.Corruption and corruption.It seems even with utmost due diligence, you can never be sure. Anybody with any experiences or advice?
Thanks in advance I followed land purchase procedure fully with legal charge being held by top commercial bank and im still in a mess in regard to beacons, with now need for survey to find out actual boundaries.. Kajiado is hell on earth. Buyer beware
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/30/2010 Posts: 65 Location: Europe
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@Obiero, did u purchase from original buyer? Which area did u buy? I have now found out that the masai family has a title for 15 acres. They want to subdivide and sell me the one acre. But, am weary....I am insisting on them subdividing & getting the title for the one acre. Only after that will i be willing to buy.
It is so very much annoying, that these simple things are so complicated in Kenya. Through this nonsense, many investors are keeping away. I know other diasporan professionals, who have the means...but not the time, heart and energy for real estate issues in Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,217 Location: nairobi
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Rapudox wrote:@Obiero, did u purchase from original buyer? Which area did u buy? I have now found out that the masai family has a title for 15 acres. They want to subdivide and sell me the one acre. But, am weary....I am insisting on them subdividing & getting the title for the one acre. Only after that will i be willing to buy.
It is so very much annoying, that these simple things are so complicated in Kenya. Through this nonsense, many investors are keeping away. I know other diasporan professionals, who have the means...but not the time, heart and energy for real estate issues in Nairobi @rapudox it was in Milimani area of Kitengela. Purchase was from second buyer, not intial owner.. However, I have made headway with mine after gettin confirmation from lands that my legal charge is valid implyin only that I need to confirm boundaries as per summon dispute
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/14/2011 Posts: 32 Location: nairobi
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Rapudox wrote:@Gathige..thx for the input. The land is in Rangau. Hello there , which part of Rangau ? senates ? Backlays ? kidiri?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 297 Location: Nairobi
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if interested in plot with title let me know.
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