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Dark Day in the History of US: Judges Deliver a Not Guilty Verdict
InnovateGuy
#1 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 8:30:39 AM
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In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?
















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simonkabz
#2 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 8:34:25 AM
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Of course not! yet guys are all over the net shouting why we must kiss mzungu's ass.
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maka
#3 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:02:43 AM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?


















I know most of you will think otherwise but the judges were right to pass that verdict... We Africans have serious inferiority complex issues, Me I thought the guy was of Aryan blood,he is Hispanic who are despised as much as Africans and then I have read the case summary. The prosecution did a very shoddy job... Just coz the guy was acquitted we have looked for a racial angle... the prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves 23 times
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chepkel
#4 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:11:29 AM
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maka wrote:
InnovateGuy wrote:
In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?




I know most of you will think otherwise but the judges were right to pass that verdict... We Africans have serious inferiority complex issues, Me I thought the guy was of Aryan blood,he is Hispanic who are despised as much as Africans and then I have read the case summary. The prosecution did a very shoddy job... Just coz the guy was acquitted we have looked for a racial angle... the prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves 23 times


The dude tresspassed into his compound!!!! He definitely did not kill him because he was Black!!!

@Maka, I agree we always try to look for the race thing before we clearly analyze the facts.

I will not touch the Trayvon thing at all!!
AlphDoti
#5 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:26:21 AM
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chepkel wrote:
maka wrote:
InnovateGuy wrote:
In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?

I know most of you will think otherwise but the judges were right to pass that verdict... We Africans have serious inferiority complex issues, Me I thought the guy was of Aryan blood,he is Hispanic who are despised as much as Africans and then I have read the case summary. The prosecution did a very shoddy job... Just coz the guy was acquitted we have looked for a racial angle... the prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves 23 times

The dude tresspassed into his compound!!!! He definitely did not kill him because he was Black!!!

@Maka, I agree we always try to look for the race thing before we clearly analyze the facts.

I will not touch the Trayvon thing at all!!

Surely @chepkel does people go shooting any new dude in the block!
It was not compound, it was gated community (just like our gated Estates), where he was the watchman that night (whatever fancy name they want), where the boy was staying temporarilly.
Staying means he was already a resident there for a while!!

Again the boy did not force, the entry to the compoundShame on you

Police already say the boy was not armed.

I wonder how he got himself bleeding in the nose, claiming the boy attacked him, when he had the gun, and he already shot him in the chest at close range???
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Meduza
#6 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:28:05 AM
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the dead tell no tales...so we seem to speak for the dead guy, even when he might have been on the wrong but because he was black, now the black lobby groups are trying to work the black Americans emotions...the judge am sure listened to both side of stories and isn't the verdict passed by a Jury???
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InnovateGuy
#7 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:44:53 AM
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chepkel wrote:
maka wrote:
InnovateGuy wrote:
In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?




I know most of you will think otherwise but the judges were right to pass that verdict... We Africans have serious inferiority complex issues, Me I thought the guy was of Aryan blood,he is Hispanic who are despised as much as Africans and then I have read the case summary. The prosecution did a very shoddy job... Just coz the guy was acquitted we have looked for a racial angle... the prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves 23 times


The dude tresspassed into his compound!!!! He definitely did not kill him because he was Black!!!

@Maka, I agree we always try to look for the race thing before we clearly analyze the facts.

I will not touch the Trayvon thing at all!!


Defending the indefensible. Whose compound again?
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chepkel
#8 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:46:00 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
chepkel wrote:
maka wrote:
InnovateGuy wrote:
In a case that will be discussed for many centuries to come, a white man has been acquitted over the shooting of a black teenager. Although George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin dead, it took 44 days to arrest him and now the judges have delivered a not guilty verdict.

Closer home, memories of the Tom Chomdley case are still fresh in the minds of Kenyans. Sad

Do Black People and African-Americans Have the Equal Rights as White People?

I know most of you will think otherwise but the judges were right to pass that verdict... We Africans have serious inferiority complex issues, Me I thought the guy was of Aryan blood,he is Hispanic who are despised as much as Africans and then I have read the case summary. The prosecution did a very shoddy job... Just coz the guy was acquitted we have looked for a racial angle... the prosecution witnesses contradicted themselves 23 times

The dude tresspassed into his compound!!!! He definitely did not kill him because he was Black!!!

@Maka, I agree we always try to look for the race thing before we clearly analyze the facts.

I will not touch the Trayvon thing at all!!

Surely @chepkel does people go shooting any new dude in the block!
It was not compound, it was gated community (just like our gated Estates), where he was the watchman that night (whatever fancy name they want), where the boy was staying temporarilly.
Staying means he was already a resident there for a while!!

Police already say the boy was not armed.

I wonder how he got himself bleeding in the nose, claiming the boy attacked him, when he had the gun, and he already shot him in the chest at close range???


Soma post yangu vizuri. Like I said, I will not touch the issue of Trayvon (Trayvon is the dead teenager).

I was talking about Chomodley my brother. Hio ingine siwesguza
InnovateGuy
#9 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:51:36 AM
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Meduza wrote:
the dead tell no tales...so we seem to speak for the dead guy, even when he might have been on the wrong but because he was black, now the black lobby groups are trying to work the black Americans emotions...the judge am sure listened to both side of stories and isn't the verdict passed by a Jury???


Yes. A jury arrived at that verdict. The major reason for acquittal is not because Zimmerman did not kill the black boy; it is because the defense "convinced" them that he was acting in self-defense.

This is appalling because when you look at the order of events, the self-defense line is just a spin. The black kid was not even armed. The Zimmerman guy inflicted an injury (or injuries) on himself to fabricate the story that he was attacked! Therefore, he is a liar who took advantage of the fact that the prosecution did not prepare a good case against him,

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Magigi
#10 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 9:54:32 AM
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Conservative commentator and author Ann Coulter refused to stay on board a Miami to New York commercial airline flight today after learning the pilot was a woman of African-American descent.

http://dailycurrant.com/...rd-airplane-black-pilot/
InnovateGuy
#11 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 10:02:59 AM
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[quote=Magigi]Conservative commentator and author Ann Coulter refused to stay on board a Miami to New York commercial airline flight today after learning the pilot was a woman of African-American descent.

http://dailycurrant.com/...d-airplane-black-pilot/[/quote]

If the pilot was white, no questions would be asked. Okay. Pray Pray
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chepkel
#12 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 10:13:14 AM
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[quote=Magigi]Conservative commentator and author Ann Coulter refused to stay on board a Miami to New York commercial airline flight today after learning the pilot was a woman of African-American descent.

http://dailycurrant.com/...d-airplane-black-pilot/[/quote]

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#13 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 10:51:01 AM
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[quote=Magigi]Conservative commentator and author Ann Coulter refused to stay on board a Miami to New York commercial airline flight today after learning the pilot was a woman of African-American descent.

http://dailycurrant.com/...d-airplane-black-pilot/[/quote]

Fake story ....
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#14 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 11:08:32 AM
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[quote=Magigi]Conservative commentator
and author Ann Coulter refused to stay on board a Miami to New York
commercial airline flight today after learning the pilot was a woman of
African-American descent.

http://dailycurrant.com/...d-airplane-black-pilot/[/quote]
at daily currant everyday is april fools day and its difficult to know which story is a spoof or not. anyway wouldn't be surprised if this story is true.
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#15 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 11:14:52 AM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
Meduza wrote:
the dead tell no tales...so we seem to speak for the dead guy, even when he might have been on the wrong but because he was black, now the black lobby groups are trying to work the black Americans emotions...the judge am sure listened to both side of stories and isn't the verdict passed by a Jury???


Yes. A jury arrived at that verdict. The major reason for acquittal is not because Zimmerman did not kill the black boy; it is because the defense "convinced" them that he was acting in self-defense.

This is appalling because when you look at the order of events, the self-defense line is just a spin. The black kid was not even armed. The Zimmerman guy inflicted an injury (or injuries) on himself to fabricate the story that he was attacked! Therefore, he is a liar who took advantage of the fact that the prosecution did not prepare a good case against him,



The black boy was not a nice little angel the evidence came out that he was a thug. He was suspended from school for assaulting the bus driver and for possession of stolen goods and burglary tools. He was also high on marijuana. His own mother also kicked him out for his violent behaviour. courts n juries after all the evidence is in have to weigh the evidnece and considering only the evidence I think they got it right on this one there was reasonable doubt
InnovateGuy
#16 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 11:58:50 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
InnovateGuy wrote:
Meduza wrote:
the dead tell no tales...so we seem to speak for the dead guy, even when he might have been on the wrong but because he was black, now the black lobby groups are trying to work the black Americans emotions...the judge am sure listened to both side of stories and isn't the verdict passed by a Jury???


Yes. A jury arrived at that verdict. The major reason for acquittal is not because Zimmerman did not kill the black boy; it is because the defense "convinced" them that he was acting in self-defense.

This is appalling because when you look at the order of events, the self-defense line is just a spin. The black kid was not even armed. The Zimmerman guy inflicted an injury (or injuries) on himself to fabricate the story that he was attacked! Therefore, he is a liar who took advantage of the fact that the prosecution did not prepare a good case against him,



The black boy was not a nice little angel the evidence came out that he was a thug. He was suspended from school for assaulting the bus driver and for possession of stolen goods and burglary tools. He was also high on marijuana. His own mother also kicked him out for his violent behaviour. courts n juries after all the evidence is in have to weigh the evidnece and considering only the evidence I think they got it right on this one there was reasonable doubt


Was the young man armed? Yes or NO? Don't buy that spin.
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#17 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 12:03:47 PM
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"There is some reason for concern. A majority of blacks receive special exams of less severity in many universities.. including the military service academies.
It is much more difficult to fire or demote blacks and other protected minorities. The most frightening case of misdiagnoses I ever heard of was pronounced by a black ER doctor in a northern VA hospital.
In nearly 7 yrs working in Africa I saw absolutely horrifying levels of incompetence at every level of Govt and in the professions. Many of these people were educated in the US or in the UK (aid grants) and were given degrees regardless of grades. So, Miss Coulter is not being irrational at all just politically incorrect. Which, of course, is worse than being a murderer."
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#18 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 4:19:37 PM
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The prosecution did not put forward a strong case here. For a murder charge, you need to prove beyond reasonable doubt that GZ, had planned to kill that boy. That he woke up that day with intentions to harm him. Considering they had no real witnesses at the scene, i think they would have gone for manslaughter which equally carries a heavy sentence in Florida.

That said, Florida has some of the worst laws like the stand your ground and other gun laws. Kasin tried to reform these laws with no success, i hope this case will see some of these laws reformed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8...r-firing-warning-shots/

Had GZ been black and killed a 17 yr old white kid, I would bet he would have been arrested immediately and the verdict might have been different. Had the jury consisted of more people of color and not just white, i also think the verdict would have been different. The reality of US justice system.

I hope the Federal Justice department pursues a civil rights case as GZ was no cop who decided to ignore an officers call not to follow the boy after profiling him. The family should also pursue a civil case for compensation.
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#19 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 4:42:04 PM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
Meduza wrote:
the dead tell no tales...so we seem to speak for the dead guy, even when he might have been on the wrong but because he was black, now the black lobby groups are trying to work the black Americans emotions...the judge am sure listened to both side of stories and isn't the verdict passed by a Jury???


Yes. A jury arrived at that verdict. The major reason for acquittal is not because Zimmerman did not kill the black boy; it is because the defense "convinced" them that he was acting in self-defense.

This is appalling because when you look at the order of events, the self-defense line is just a spin. The black kid was not even armed. The Zimmerman guy inflicted an injury (or injuries) on himself to fabricate the story that he was attacked! Therefore, he is a liar who took advantage of the fact that the prosecution did not prepare a good case against him,



Don't blame those who are raising the race card in this case. The young boy was killed while walking home from buying a snack. The wannabe cop called 911 to report a black man who was loitering in the gated community, the 911 officer told him to stop following him but he couldnt stop, he walked out of the car and started to follow the young boy who was wearing a hooded blazer, the young boy was scared but Zimmerman pounced on him and there was a struggle..the man shot him on his HEART.

PS it took 44 days before he was arrested. What danger did the boy pose? Just being black and wearing a hood? In the US if you get into an accident and unfortunately the other party dies, you are charged with manslaughter...this man was set free of all charges. Just because it wasn't clear who was shouting help! help!
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#20 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 5:15:59 PM
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jguru wrote:
"There is some reason for concern. A majority of blacks receive special exams of less severity in many universities.. including the military service academies.
It is much more difficult to fire or demote blacks and other protected minorities. The most frightening case of misdiagnoses I ever heard of was pronounced by a black ER doctor in a northern VA hospital.
In nearly 7 yrs working in Africa I saw absolutely horrifying levels of incompetence at every level of Govt and in the professions. Many of these people were educated in the US or in the UK (aid grants) and were given degrees regardless of grades. So, Miss Coulter is not being irrational at all just politically incorrect. Which, of course, is worse than being a murderer."


Are you kidding me? I have been to three TOP institutions in USA, I am black and I have never heard of "special exams for Blacks" You mean they'll teach all races in the same class but when it is time to take exams, black students are given a different exams from the rest of the students? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!

Jguru, I don't know how much knowledge you have in healthcare, misdiagnoses? there are thousands of misdiagnoses every year, it touches all races and all genders, there is no know metric that shows any specific gender or race tend to misd, so you are obviously a bigot.

Incompetence in African governments and professions has nothing to do with education, it is the culture
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