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Mucene
#1 Posted : Friday, July 12, 2013 2:05:59 PM
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The cheap housing model spearheaded by Jamii
Bora in Kajiado has come under severe test as
the low-income buyers say they are unable to
repay the mortgages.
Urbanis, the developer that took over the
project from Jamii Bora Makao, said high
interest rates have pushed up the mortgages,
making it hard for the low-income buyers to
pay.

businessdailyafrica.com/Jamii-Bora-home-buyers-face-eviction--/-/539546/1912270/-/g04dxq/-/index.html
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 12, 2013 2:16:31 PM
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check their position on google maps. They r in the middle of nowhere. Their ability to communicate with nairobi cbd which provides employment has been severly hampered.
https://maps.google.com/...Province,+Kenya&z=16
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#3 Posted : Friday, July 12, 2013 4:07:47 PM
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Would be interesting to see how they handle this. The Big guy said they are ready for "talks".

I personally thought they had done the mortgages using a fixed-rate interest. For the rest of players who are targeting that market segment, Time to take notes and learn.

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#4 Posted : Friday, July 12, 2013 11:47:53 PM
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[quote=a4architect.com]check their position on google maps. They r in the middle of nowhere. Their ability to communicate with nairobi cbd which provides employment has been severly hampered.
https://maps.google.com/...rovince,+Kenya&z=16[/quote]


mboss we,, this houses were not designed for people like you
Remember their add on TV starring the likes of jalango their target market was clear. The only problem is that it did not reach them in masses . Owning a house for many people is a dream, no matter the location.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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maka
#5 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:46:04 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
[quote=a4architect.com]check their position on google maps. They r in the middle of nowhere. Their ability to communicate with nairobi cbd which provides employment has been severly hampered.
https://maps.google.com/...rovince,+Kenya&z=16[/quote]


mboss we,, this houses were not designed for people like you
Remember their add on TV starring the likes of jalango their target market was clear. The only problem is that it did not reach them in masses . Owning a house for many people is a dream, no matter the location.


Boss have you been to Kisaju?
You cant stay in this place and work in Nairobi...labda rongai or kiserian and thats still far btw this means you,ll have to rent another house for easier access to your work/business area and still pay a mortgage on your kisaju house which will most likely have no tenant coz no one would want to live there...I had said it before this was not a properly planned project to early for such an area.
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Mucene
#6 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:42:54 AM
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Since the place is about 20Km from Konza probably those who keep up the payments will benefit greatly once Konza becomes a reality
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a4architect.com
#7 Posted : Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:09:48 PM
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maka wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
[quote=a4architect.com]check their position on google maps. They r in the middle of nowhere. Their ability to communicate with nairobi cbd which provides employment has been severly hampered.
https://maps.google.com/...rovince,+Kenya&z=16[/quote]


mboss we,, this houses were not designed for people like you
Remember their add on TV starring the likes of jalango their target market was clear. The only problem is that it did not reach them in masses . Owning a house for many people is a dream, no matter the location.


Boss have you been to Kisaju?
You cant stay in this place and work in Nairobi...labda rongai or kiserian and thats still far btw this means you,ll have to rent another house for easier access to your work/business area and still pay a mortgage on your kisaju house which will most likely have no tenant coz no one would want to live there...I had said it before this was not a properly planned project to early for such an area.


@maka..very brilliant observation. Ingrid Munro is an architect so she should have known better. Nairobi CBD feeds a radius of 40 km from its epicentre.

Land 50km and above from nairobi will need its own economic activity for sustenance. She could have done a JV with Amiran for the greenhouse farming or anything that can generate income to the occupants. Another solution was to design the houses such that construction cost is far much lower.

The same situation will befall Konza city investors who do not plan well.
Buildings, no matter how smart they are, do not exist without other factors such as proximity to existing cities/towns, proximity to raw materials etc etc.
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mpobiz
#8 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:03:27 AM
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a4architect.com wrote:
maka wrote:
mpobiz wrote:
[quote=a4architect.com]check their position on google maps. They r in the middle of nowhere. Their ability to communicate with nairobi cbd which provides employment has been severly hampered.
https://maps.google.com/...rovince,+Kenya&z=16[/quote]


mboss we,, this houses were not designed for people like you
Remember their add on TV starring the likes of jalango their target market was clear. The only problem is that it did not reach them in masses . Owning a house for many people is a dream, no matter the location.


Boss have you been to Kisaju?
You cant stay in this place and work in Nairobi...labda rongai or kiserian and thats still far btw this means you,ll have to rent another house for easier access to your work/business area and still pay a mortgage on your kisaju house which will most likely have no tenant coz no one would want to live there...I had said it before this was not a properly planned project to early for such an area.


@maka..very brilliant observation. Ingrid Munro is an architect so she should have known better. Nairobi CBD feeds a radius of 40 km from its epicentre.

Land 50km and above from nairobi will need its own economic activity for sustenance. She could have done a JV with Amiran for the greenhouse farming or anything that can generate income to the occupants. Another solution was to design the houses such that construction cost is far much lower.

The same situation will befall Konza city investors who do not plan well.
Buildings, no matter how smart they are, do not exist without other factors such as proximity to existing cities/towns, proximity to raw materials etc etc.


You still can't see it people. I once had a chat with a man who after retirement, he went to his rural home in nyahururu. After a year he come back and rented a house in ruai. During his working days he decided to develop his rural home where he built a house and other farm infrastructure. Recently him and his son started to pay for one of those houses at kisaju and now lives there and his wife.
The reason he couldn't live in his rural area was because according to him one grows old ten times much faster in ocha than in Tao
He considers that since Nairobi metropolis comes all the way to kitengela, he is better of at kisaju than in nyahururu
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#9 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:09:37 AM
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mpobiz wrote:

You still can't see it people. I once had a chat with a man who after retirement, he went to his rural home in nyahururu. After a year he come back and rented a house in ruai. During his working days he decided to develop his rural home where he built a house and other farm infrastructure. Recently him and his son started to pay for one of those houses at kisaju and now lives there and his wife.
The reason he couldn't live in his rural area was because according to him one grows old ten times much faster in ocha than in Tao
He considers that since Nairobi metropolis comes all the way to kitengela, he is better of at kisaju than in nyahururu


please explain?
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wanyee
#10 Posted : Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:59:32 AM
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have always have the opinion that besides everything else ..most of these slum dwellers have a psychological problem
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