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CENTUM FY MARCH 13 RESULTS
FUNKY
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:16:21 AM
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Profit for the year 2,509,396,000 compared to 1,189,405,000 a year ago. EPS 3.77 from 1.79 a year ago. No dividend or bonus.

Source todays business daily apge 10
mlennyma
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:29:52 AM
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No div. And no bonus you mean?if true they are very hungry for funding.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
streetwise
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:44:08 AM
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At this profit rate; there should be breaking news
madebe
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:34:15 AM
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Anybody with the presentation that was being made at the SERENA ?
mwekez@ji
#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:42:12 AM
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madebe
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:49:11 AM
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The big power point presentation that has more details. and i dint hear the reply to the Coca cola taxation issue
mwekez@ji
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:55:51 AM
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madebe wrote:
Anybody with the presentation that was being made at the SERENA ?


madebe wrote:
The big power point presentation that has more details. and i dint hear the reply to the Coca cola taxation issue


someone pls share the power point presentation on wazua@googlegroups.com
mwekez@ji
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:56:24 AM
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Shareprice this morning has spoken my thoughts. The results are neither here nor there
mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:03:36 AM
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Would want to see the breakdown of this income. It it courtesy of revaluations?
mwekez@ji
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:07:08 AM
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Administrative expenses up a whopping 157% #No explaination given
mwekez@ji
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:09:08 AM
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Finance cost up 74% #Expected
mwekez@ji
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:12:34 AM
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Total Equity of the Group is less than of the Company #Bizarre
muganda
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:13:04 AM
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Hehehe mwekez@ji, so is this share a lady with virtue (investments, strategy, leadership) but no beauty (cash, dividends, bonus)?

So overtime virtue will win the day but it will be a long bland and ugly wait.

* Dividends received from associates of 217m
now not enough to cater for administrative expenses of (379m)
* Net Cash genterated from
investing activites now (1.5b) from 1.4b previous year

mwekez@ji
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:21:48 AM
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muganda wrote:
Hehehe mwekez@ji, so is this share a lady with virtue (investments, strategy, leadership) but no beauty (cash, dividends, bonus)?

So overtime virtue will win the day but it will be a long bland and ugly wait.

* Dividends received from associates of 217m
now not enough to cater for administrative expenses of (379m)
* Net Cash genterated from
investing activites now (1.5b) from 1.4b previous year



LQTM muganda. you put it very well. this share is a lady with virtue (which is still very blur coz it aint coming out well and she’s known for tricksters) and with no beauty (cash, dividends, bonus)
mwekez@ji
#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:46:08 AM
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#Noted > The new subsidiary, Centum Asset Managers Limited (CAM,) will start off managing a portfolio the existing portfolio of KES 5.7bn (KES 3.7bn Centum assets and 2bn third party funds). >> This CAM is basically the existing asset management function of Centum
mwekez@ji
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:07:12 PM
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madebe wrote:
Anybody with the presentation that was being made at the SERENA ?


@Madebe,

The powerpoint presentation >>> http://centum.co.ke/component/d...year-ended-31-march-2013

The Published results >>> http://centum.co.ke/component/d...hed-results-fye-mar-2013
mkonomtupu
#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:28:26 PM
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why is the management of centum so obsessed with the performance of the share price? Mr. Market has said 24/= so work hard through figures to show us the projects are viable and you can repay the loans and Mr. Market will respond
dave.kim
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:58:20 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Would want to see the breakdown of this income. It it courtesy of revaluations?

Obviously. Centum profits reflects market performance of the previous year. But they have reduced this exposure by decreasing quoted equity % in the portfolio. Not sure if it they reduced or percentage was reduced by virtue of Increased funds into the portfolio from the bonds
Rule No.1 is never lose money. Rule No.2 is never forget rule number one
mwanahisa
#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:18:45 PM
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I am pretty happy with James's concern regarding Centum's share price. At the end of the day, CEOs should demonstrate that they can increase shareholder wealth and the share price is one of the key measures for this. I wish more CEOs had the share price as one of the measures of their success!!!
mkonomtupu wrote:
why is the management of centum so obsessed with the performance of the share price? Mr. Market has said 24/= so work hard through figures to show us the projects are viable and you can repay the loans and Mr. Market will respond

the deal
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 05, 2013 2:50:21 PM
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Not impressed. EPS already reflecting gains in Real Estate....as it stands there is little discount to NAV/share...as a rule...only buy an investment firm when its trading at a 20% discount to NAV...so Centum at Sh23.75 is overvalued in my books...NAV/Share growth of 18% means Centum underfomed the NSE20 in 2012 which expanded more than 20%...not good for an asset manager.
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