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Jubilee Manifesto
ecstacy
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:15:49 AM
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Dear All,

We wake up to a new dawn, Kenya kumekucha!

Jubilee made a pact with Kenyans to deliver on promises it made during the campaign.

As much as I didn't vote for them, optimism reigns with the "dynamic duo" exuberant with youthful energy, cognisance of strategy in success, sense of pride in the African renaissance and partnerships of mutual benefit.

For the next 5 years, President Uhuru's success is Kenya's success and Kenya's success is your success!

Good start on reaffirmation of the 100 day Jubilee Manifesto promises and pledge to use the ksh 6 Billion set aside for a runoff on youth development projects.

As much as it is an aspirational document, like all Kenyans should, I shall be sure to hold them to these and other promises!

Please find for your assimilation the Jubilee manifesto at the following link -
http://issuu.com/jubilee...ocs/jubilee_manifesto/1

I believe some implementational details for it will be spelt out in the Head of State's speech to the Houses on 16th April.

Happy reading.
McReggae
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:11:09 AM
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I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Magigi
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:18:35 AM
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McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

How will the kids in the village maintain the laptops if they cant keep an exercise book clean? Will the laptops be made of plastic such that when they fall down they won't break? Do Jubilee people have children? Do they really really really know children? Okay...If the children will be getting a new laptop every week, then that is all fine!
Cupcake
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:28:55 AM
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Magigi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

How will the kids in the village maintain the laptops if they cant keep an exercise book clean? Will the laptops be made of plastic such that when they fall down they won't break? Do Jubilee people have children? Do they really really really know children? Okay...If the children will be getting a new laptop every week, then that is all fine!



thats also creating more jobs for the 'mafundis'...do u know there are people who can repair anything hata kama hawajasomea shuleni....
Magigi
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:31:57 AM
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The government should just substitute this bull with building more classrooms, getting more teachers and providing adequate teaching learning materials.
mawinder
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:34:08 AM
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McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

Who has stolen what?Peleka porojo kwa Olumba Olumba and Sangomas in South Africa to help you recover your cylinders!!!!!!
maka
#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:35:05 AM
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Magigi wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

How will the kids in the village maintain the laptops if they cant keep an exercise book clean? Will the laptops be made of plastic such that when they fall down they won't break? Do Jubilee people have children? Do they really really really know children? Okay...If the children will be getting a new laptop every week, then that is all fine!

I agree with @Mc I really dont think laptops are a necessity while others are reading under trees like you said...lets have better classrooms,labs and libraries equipped with the latest editions...better ablution blocks,adequate water etc,a laptop wont help if you dont have all of this...btw at this time and age many students still walk barefoot many kms to school...so sad
possunt quia posse videntur
McReggae
#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:43:04 AM
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mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

Who has stolen what?Peleka porojo kwa Olumba Olumba and Sangomas in South Africa to help you recover your cylinders!!!!!!


Wewe uko na shida, understand the context of the post.....i'm reffering to to village thiefs and other students stealing the laptops from class ones...the guilty are always afraid!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
cd04
#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:43:40 AM
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I have said this before and i will say it again. Please watch this Ted Talk by Sugata Mitra
http://www.ted.com/talks...chool_in_the_cloud.html

The laptops are a vital part of our exponential growth, more important than classrooms and teachers using outdated materials and resources.
kripp
#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:44:49 AM
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Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.
McReggae
#11 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:53:16 AM
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kripp wrote:
Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Very well put!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
seppuku
#12 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:16:10 AM
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kripp wrote:
Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.


You are a genius! Applause Applause Applause

Oh, and here and here are some good ideas on how to set up cheap computer labs.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
mawinder
#13 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:39:57 AM
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Our time to do business.Business for those who stood by Jubilee.I can assure you that the suppliers will be www.edutronic.it and www.tecnilab.edu who are the leading suppliers of educational computers and softwares through a local company controlled by the activist.
AlphDoti
#14 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:53:22 AM
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McReggae wrote:
mawinder wrote:
McReggae wrote:
I know they want to keep their word but for me laptops for every class one kid should not be a priority where some children still learn under the trees......class 8 candidates computer illiterate while class ones have laptops.....wizi nayo!!!!

Who has stolen what?Peleka porojo kwa Olumba Olumba and Sangomas in South Africa to help you recover your cylinders!!!!!!

Wewe uko na shida, understand the context of the post.....i'm reffering to to village thiefs and other students stealing the laptops from class ones...the guilty are always afraid!!!

@mawinder whose cylinders were they again?
Please stop the obsession, read @MC's posts properly Shame on you Shame on you

Now I think those electronic suvvy young men should set up repairs shops upcountry now. There is money to be made. Is this not direct job creation! Applause Applause
josiah33
#15 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:22:46 AM
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kripp wrote:
Laptops vs. Computer Labs

Congratulations to our brand new president Kenyatta and deputy president Ruto. This is in response to their call to us to support them in taking Kenya forward. My contribution is in the form of ideas.
I wish to contribute to the debate on the promise made of issuing laptops to all children joining standard one in public schools in 2014. This is a noble idea but I believe that we should look at other alternatives that may more effectively meet the objective of introducing Kenyan children to IT at an early age.
My concern is that a laptop will not last very long in the hands of a six year old child. It is likely to be treated like a toy, exposed to rain and dust not to mention that the whole family will want to use it as well. Expect inter-sibling fights over use of the laptop with the young laptop owner likely coming out the loser.
Then there is the issue of insecurity. I fear that a young child walking around with a laptop is an easy target for thugs who are unfortunately all too common in Kenya nowadays.
We also have to contend with the rest of the children in classes 2 to 8 feeling left out. We must look at this from the eyes of a child. All they will see is that the young ones are being favoured. There will be pressure on struggling parents to buy laptops for all their children yet they can hardly afford to feed them well.
In light of these concerns, I propose that instead of issuing laptops to the class one pupils only, it may be more effective and cheaper in the long run to establish computer labs in each public primary school. The computer labs can be equipped with desktop computers for a standard class of say 40 pupils. A new IT lesson should then be introduced in the school curriculum so that all classes get at least a one hour lesson per week. This can then culminate in an IT competency certification process along the lines of the internationally recognized ICDL. This approach will also lead to job creation for the youth because IT instructors will be required in public schools.
On keeping the costs of this project low and guaranteeing the procurement of high quality equipment, procurement laws should be amended to ensure that the government procures goods directly from manufactures only instead of the current use of agents and middlemen. Computer labs can also have a standard design and size so that the cost of building them is kept under control and made comparable across the country. In fact, I would expect that CDF money can be used to build the computer labs and install solar panels in areas without electricity. In any case, KPLC should at the very least supply electricity to all shopping centres, health centres and schools across the whole country.

Great ideas....smile smile
McReggae
#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:56:36 AM
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I think ya laptop is now well disected!!!

......next???
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
holycow
#17 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36:11 PM
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I will keep on asking, where will the money come from? In my wanjiku mind, i see more taxes or wage cuts. KRA has not achieved its targets, we at 45% of our GDP in debts.
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T-Bag
#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:35:31 PM
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1 million kids join class one each year or 800k sat for KCSE 2012, lets say the laptop costs 20K. you will need 20,000,000,000. 20 Big ones kila mwaka?
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King G
#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:07:13 PM
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T-Bag wrote:
1 million kids join class one each year or 800k sat for KCSE 2012, lets say the laptop costs 20K. you will need 20,000,000,000. 20 Big ones kila mwaka?


laptops are for schools therefore you only buy once in a big way then in future for replacement and expansion. Then again i dont think each kid will have a laptop of their own but a decent ratio will be worked on how to share/groupings.
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Shak
#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:04:32 PM
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King G wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
1 million kids join class one each year or 800k sat for KCSE 2012, lets say the laptop costs 20K. you will need 20,000,000,000. 20 Big ones kila mwaka?


laptops are for schools therefore you only buy once in a big way then in future for replacement and expansion. Then again i dont think each kid will have a laptop of their own but a decent ratio will be worked on how to share/groupings.

Exactly! This idea that the laptops will be personal for the kids to carry to and from school is misplaced. I'm sure they will be school property and what public schools should be supported on at the moment is to build a secure place to store the lap tops when they arrive.
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