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77 Million by 2030: Long-term investment opportunities?
eco
#1 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 2:20:59 PM
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Kenya’s population is projected to hit 77 Million by 2030, up from the current 43 Million (July 2012 est.). Besides the numerous implications, what investment opportunities does this trend present?

Bearing in mind the following:
1. The country is classified as water scarce. 13 million Kenyans lack access to improved water supply and 19 million lack access to improved sanitation. Water problems are bound to rise.
2. Almost 80% of the country is arid and semi-arid lands (ASAL), which cannot support arable farming without technological interventions (e.g. irrigation). The little land available for rainfed crop grow is being lost to surface sealing especially by real estate developments at an alarming rate.
3. Urban population: 22% of total population (2010); rate of urbanization: 4.2% annual rate of change (2010-15 est.).
4. Current demand for housing is approximately 150,000 units per year, against a supply of about 40,000 units. Fast forward this scenario to 2030.
5. Demand for energy will continue to rise with the rising population.
6. Demand for services e.g. transportation, haulage, whatever…

Which sector(s) of the economy would you invest in the long-term (2030 is 17 years from now)?
mkonomtupu
#2 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 2:38:06 PM
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retail & entertainment, data/telcom, banking and energy
deadpoet
#3 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 2:55:02 PM
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Construction

Also any initiative that has a renewable approach e.g. cultivating bamboo for charcoal.
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#4 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 3:19:26 PM
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Housing, food production
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guru267
#5 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 3:22:55 PM
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food, construction, insurance, electricity & banking!

Cheap plays today in each sector are:

1. Mumias (food & energy)
2. Unga (food)
3. bamburi (construction)
4. HFCK /KCB (construction & banking)
5. kengen (energy)
6. Kenya re/ jubilee (insurance)

if your portfolio is diversified with these cheap but high growth stocks you will not regret in 5years!
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kaifastus
#6 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 3:49:05 PM
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eco wrote:
Kenya’s population is projected to hit 77 Million by 2030, up from the current 43 Million (July 2012 est.). Besides the numerous implications, what investment opportunities does this trend present?

Bearing in mind the following:
1. The country is classified as water scarce. 13 million Kenyans lack access to improved water supply and 19 million lack access to improved sanitation. Water problems are bound to rise.
2. Almost 80% of the country is arid and semi-arid lands (ASAL), which cannot support arable farming without technological interventions (e.g. irrigation). The little land available for rainfed crop grow is being lost to surface sealing especially by real estate developments at an alarming rate.
3. Urban population: 22% of total population (2010); rate of urbanization: 4.2% annual rate of change (2010-15 est.).
4. Current demand for housing is approximately 150,000 units per year, against a supply of about 40,000 units. Fast forward this scenario to 2030.
5. Demand for energy will continue to rise with the rising population.
6. Demand for services e.g. transportation, haulage, whatever…

Which sector(s) of the economy would you invest in the long-term (2030 is 17 years from now)?


Are you talking about investments in stocks of companies in those sectors... or direct investment in business in various sectors.
my pick
1.[b] construction sector. we gonna see alot of crazy construction going on to meet demand. profit margins for businesses here are good.
2.financial sector.(possibly through ownership of shares of banks with good business)
3.education..demand for educ is soaring. great opportunities lie in investment in per-primary,primary and secondary schooling.

Gadaffi
#7 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 10:04:56 PM
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Population will result 2 great oppornunities across all sectors of th economy. What matters is th govt providing necessary support thro infrastructure, legislation...its about being ready 4 these opportunities n its already happening!!!
jamplu
#8 Posted : Friday, November 02, 2012 11:03:36 PM
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Feeding the 77 million thats where the money will be!
Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:16:55 AM
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The projected population will be a poorer population and that does not translate to 'traditional' opportunity growth. That is where outside the box thinking comes in.
Housing will be balanced by exponential growth in slums, city villages
Agric. margins will be eaten by production costs (kenya is a water scarce country)
Financial and IT, really for a poorer population?
Energy, mercifully with all the prospecting across EA, margins will be minimal (no effective demand from a poorer population) and on and on

my pesanane thoughts.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
guru267
#10 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 5:03:03 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
LiarThe projected population will be a poorer population and that does not translate to 'traditional' opportunity growth.Shame on you


1. Is this a logical statement??
2. Is Kenyas middle class growing or shrinking?? 3. Have you ever had of vision 2030??
4. Do you have an example of any peaceful & growing country that has a population which is poorer than they were 20years ago??
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the deal
#11 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:26:11 AM
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77 Million=Poverty crisis. Central planners should focus their efforts on controlling population growth. Kenya can't even feed 38 Million people at the moment what will happen with 77 Million mouths? 1. Agricultural land will be uprooted to make way for settlements=food crisis. 2. Add droughts cos Kenya's forest cover will be destroyed by this settlement 3. Land will be unaffordable=mega slums 4. Unemployment...poverty=Mungiki & MRC..
guru267
#12 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:05:07 AM
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the deal wrote:
77 Million=Poverty crisis. Central planners should focus their efforts on controlling population growth.


The problem isn't population growth but rather the problem is poor government policy!

Lets look at Kenya vs Japan!

SIZE/AREA
1. Japan area = 378,000 sq km
2. Kenya area = 508,000 sq km

POPULATION
1. Japan population = 130million
2. Kenya population = 36million

WEALTH
1. Japan per capita gdp = $39,000
2. Kenya per capita gdp = $1,000

@the deal Japan seems to have escaped the problems you had mentioned despite being way way way smaller than Kenya!
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the deal
#13 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08:09 AM
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guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
77 Million=Poverty crisis. Central planners should focus their efforts on controlling population growth.


The problem isn't population growth but rather the problem is poor government policy!

Lets look at Kenya vs Japan!

SIZE/AREA
1. Japan area = 378,000 sq km
2. Kenya area = 508,000 sq km

POPULATION
1. Japan population = 130million
2. Kenya population = 36million

WEALTH
1. Japan per capita gdp = $39,000
2. Kenya per capita gdp = $1,000

@the deal Japan seems to have escaped the problems you had mentioned despite being way way way smaller than Kenya!

Kenya is not Japan i.e leadership etc...if Kenya is not an oil producer by 2030 & the population grows at this rate then we are starring at a poverty crisis...like I said agricultural land is only set to shrink who will feed the 77mn? Import food? This is an interesting article http://www.meteor.iastat...course/energy/china.html
Pesa Nane
#14 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:01:48 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
LiarThe projected population will be a poorer population and that does not translate to 'traditional' opportunity growth.Shame on you


1. Is this a logical statement??
2. Is Kenyas middle class growing or shrinking??
3. Have you ever had of vision 2030??
4. Do you have an example of any peaceful & growing country that has a population which is poorer than they were 20years ago??


@guru, please see post 11 from @the Deal.!! spot on.

1. Yes, statement is logical
2. The growth in wealth has, is and will continue to be a deception caused by the ever growing disparities between the rich and the poor. Abject poverty is rising, rising. Remember JM Kariuki's '10 millionaires and 10 million paupers?'
3. Yes, I heard of the vision 2030. Did you hear of the vision 'by 2000 to eradicate disease, poverty and illiteracy?'
4. Why go further that check the diminishing GDP in Kenya from 1989 to 2007? Incidentally, these were the 'peaceful' years without internal strife, MRC, Tana, piracy, Somali occupation, police strikes.

Social indicator are a preferred way of adjudging riches / poverty.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Gadaffi
#15 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:56:50 PM
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I agree wit @guru n diifer wit @pesa n @deal.
1.The problem is govt policy n nt popn increase.
2. Even if we discover commercially viable oil yet there is no govt policy, we willl end up lyk Nigeria et al.
3. Take an example of regional states tryin 2 establish EAC protocal. This is aimed at reachin a huge market from th combined population.
Even if th gdp remains at th moderate 3.3, then an increase in popn will create greater markets n opportunities 4 industries
Pesa Nane
#16 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:19:09 PM
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Gadaffi wrote:
I agree wit @guru n diifer wit @pesa n @deal.
1.The problem is govt policy n nt popn increase.
2. Even if we discover commercially viable oil yet there is no govt policy, we willl end up lyk Nigeria et al.
3. Take an example of regional states tryin 2 establish EAC protocal. This is aimed at reachin a huge market from th combined population.
Even if th gdp remains at th moderate 3.3, then an increase in popn will create greater markets n opportunities 4 industries


Liar Shame on you @Gadaffi, please re-read my post. At no time did I say the population increase and not the govt. is to blame. My premise is that the projected population will be poorer.
Kindly note that the future will not just pop-up from nowhere. The present is the foundation of the future. The fate of the future generation has and is being shaped today.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
the deal
#17 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 2:06:57 PM
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@Pesanane offcourse nobody is talking about gvmnt policy...this thread is about weather Kenya's projectd 77mn people will transilate into business opportunities...the population of Kenya has been growing at a faster rate over the last decades than that of SA, but come 2012 only 11% of Kenyans can afford morgages compared to 26.5% in South Africa...@Gadaffi an increase in a population doesnt literally translate into a market, for you to understand this you need to look at factors that shape up a market i.e effective demand (which is a factor of income, prices and supply etc) in otherwords you can have a market of 2 billion people if they can't afford your product cos their broke or the price is beyond them then you will have to close down, if its a basic necessity like Power they will steal...now link this with my earlier posts and you will see why 77mn is undesirable!
guru267
#18 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 2:26:57 PM
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the deal wrote:
@Pesanane offcourse nobody is talking about gvmnt policy...this thread is about weather Kenya's projectd 77mn people will transilate into business opportunities...the population of Kenya has been growing at a faster rate over the last decades than that of SA, but come 2012 only 11% of Kenyans can afford morgages compared to 26.5% in South Africa...@Gadaffi an increase in a population doesnt literally translate into a market, for you to understand this you need to look at factors that shape up a market i.e effective demand (which is a factor of income, prices and supply etc) in otherwords you can have a market of 2 billion people if they can't afford your product cos their broke or the price is beyond them then you will have to close down, if its a basic necessity like Power they will steal...now link this with my earlier posts and you will see why 77mn is undesirable!


@the deal you talk about taking action today! What about
1.devolution
2.energy sharing laws
3.county governments
4.youth tenders
5.infrastructure growth
6.Massive irrigation schemes

All of the above are being passed and carried out in Kenya today! So why should the future population be poorer??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Gadaffi
#19 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 2:46:54 PM
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@deal, this thing has everything to do wit govt policy.
Currently, there r huge tracks of land 'owned'-whether legally or otherwise-by a select few in the society. Again, there r so many pple occupying land in th urban areas: we r simply nt spread out. On th other hand u cn talk of controllin popn. All this has 2 do with govt policy, period.
Whether the increased popn will result 2 poverty is ALL dependent on govt policy, it is th common denominator.
Pesa Nane
#20 Posted : Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:34:12 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
The projected population will be a poorer population and that does not translate to 'traditional' opportunity growth. That is where outside the box thinking comes in.
Housing will be balanced by exponential growth in slums, city villages
Agric. margins will be eaten by production costs (kenya is a water scarce country)
Financial and IT, really for a poorer population?
Energy, mercifully with all the prospecting across EA, margins will be minimal (no effective demand from a poorer population) and on and on

my pesanane thoughts.


If you read this post you will see there is nothing about government policy. Neither is there anything about the population increase being the problem. Just a thought that benefits if any, will require more resourceful 'out of the box' thinking rather that linear analogies.smile smile smile
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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