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IMPORTED CARS
washiku
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:16:33 AM
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I have always wondered about these mileage displayed on the imported cars. A 2005 car that shows it has only done 49000 miles. Really, this is a car that have been out there for 7 years. Kwani it was always at the parking for those years?
kripp
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:11:07 PM
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@Washiku
That is quite possible depending on the infrastructure dynamics of a country.

For example, in some countries many people live in what we would call " town" i.e there is no clear distinction between residential and commercial areas same situation as we have in Mombasa island. Such a person may therefore cover only a 10km or less roundtrip from home to office daily (3650kms annualy) with no long trips upcountry.

In own experience, I cover approximately 30kms roundtrip daily excluding weekends and my mileage is only 45,000kms over 5 years during which I have not changed the tyres!

Having said that, when it comes to "business" you cannot take the mileage indicated at face value since it can be altered. You must do your due diligence.
washiku
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:50:04 PM
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kripp wrote:
@Washiku
That is quite possible depending on the infrastructure dynamics of a country.

For example, in some countries many people live in what we would call " town" i.e there is no clear distinction between residential and commercial areas same situation as we have in Mombasa island. Such a person may therefore cover only a 10km or less roundtrip from home to office daily (3650kms annualy) with no long trips upcountry.

In own experience, I cover approximately 30kms roundtrip daily excluding weekends and my mileage is only 45,000kms over 5 years during which I have not changed the tyres!

Having said that, when it comes to "business" you cannot take the mileage indicated at face value since it can be altered. You must do your due diligence.


Thanks @kripp. Sounds comprehensive and convincing. Applause Now I have an idea. I always thot they are adjusted at the port, as in all of them. Now I have an idea that some could be genuine.
jamplu
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:05:45 PM
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washiku wrote:
kripp wrote:
@Washiku
That is quite possible depending on the infrastructure dynamics of a country.

For example, in some countries many people live in what we would call " town" i.e there is no clear distinction between residential and commercial areas same situation as we have in Mombasa island. Such a person may therefore cover only a 10km or less roundtrip from home to office daily (3650kms annualy) with no long trips upcountry.

In own experience, I cover approximately 30kms roundtrip daily excluding weekends and my mileage is only 45,000kms over 5 years during which I have not changed the tyres!

Having said that, when it comes to "business" you cannot take the mileage indicated at face value since it can be altered. You must do your due diligence.


Thanks @kripp. Sounds comprehensive and convincing. Applause Now I have an idea. I always thot they are adjusted at the port, as in all of them. Now I have an idea that some could be genuine.


the majority of cars in kenya have wrong mileage.
poundfoolish
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:15:05 PM
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washiku wrote:
kripp wrote:
@Washiku
That is quite possible depending on the infrastructure dynamics of a country.

For example, in some countries many people live in what we would call " town" i.e there is no clear distinction between residential and commercial areas same situation as we have in Mombasa island. Such a person may therefore cover only a 10km or less roundtrip from home to office daily (3650kms annualy) with no long trips upcountry.

In own experience, I cover approximately 30kms roundtrip daily excluding weekends and my mileage is only 45,000kms over 5 years during which I have not changed the tyres!

Having said that, when it comes to "business" you cannot take the mileage indicated at face value since it can be altered. You must do your due diligence.


Thanks @kripp. Sounds comprehensive and convincing. Applause Now I have an idea. I always thot they are adjusted at the port, as in all of them. Now I have an idea that some could be genuine.


Take a good look here http://delights.jp/db2/stock.php

Look at the manufacture year and look at the mileage
Do you see any car with mileage less than 40K kms?
I know a few importers and they told me..
"never ask about mileage..we will always give you what you want..."
Most adjust to 50kms... to tally with the 30km's per day statistics..
mukiha
#6 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 10:24:41 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
Take a good look here http://delights.jp/db2/stock.php

Look at the manufacture year and look at the mileage
Do you see any car with mileage less than 40K kms?
I know a few importers and they told me..
"never ask about mileage..we will always give you what you want..."
Most adjust to 50kms... to tally with the 30km's per day statistics..



YES!

Stock number 17860 [the very first one on the page] has 34,272km

Also, stock number 17798 also on page one, has 16,664km! and it's a 2005 unit!!!!!
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bartum
#7 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 11:27:28 AM
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who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla
johng
#8 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 12:35:38 PM
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bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla



Purchase any vehicle with a red number plate i.e. Diplomatic, ngos bearing in mind, duty has not been paid for it and you are the one to settle it. I hope money is not a problem to you otherwise, look elsewhere.
bartum
#9 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 12:44:15 PM
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johng wrote:
bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla



Purchase any vehicle with a red number plate i.e. Diplomatic, ngos bearing in mind, duty has not been paid for it and you are the one to settle it. I hope money is not a problem to you otherwise, look elsewhere.

by saying look elsewhere you mean they are overpriced
GGK
#10 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 12:55:27 PM
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bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla


I did, I thought it was a better deal than japan reconditioned?
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bartum
#11 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 1:35:27 PM
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GGK wrote:
bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla


I did, I thought it was a better deal than japan reconditioned?

how much could you bid the 2005KAV toyota corolla with a duty of 192k and covered 31000km
Elder
#12 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 5:07:05 PM
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GGK wrote:
bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla


I did, I thought it was a better deal than japan reconditioned?

Always wondered about that - Would you prefer an older vehicle that has been used on good roads and has a service history or a newer one that has been used on Kenyan roads with inconsistent servicing?
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GGK
#13 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 5:15:05 PM
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bartum wrote:
GGK wrote:
bartum wrote:
who saw british high commission vehicles on sale on thurs 20/9/2012 nation newspaper. A 2005 car has a mileage of 30km.how much can i quote,i need.it is a KAP toyota corolla


I did, I thought it was a better deal than japan reconditioned?

how much could you bid the 2005KAV toyota corolla with a duty of 192k and covered 31000km


Its difficult to answer this. Someone has to see the vehicle to gauge its value. Number Plate, Millage mean nothing on old cars
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poundfoolish
#14 Posted : Friday, September 21, 2012 11:46:44 PM
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mukiha wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Take a good look here http://delights.jp/db2/stock.php

Look at the manufacture year and look at the mileage
Do you see any car with mileage less than 40K kms?
I know a few importers and they told me..
"never ask about mileage..we will always give you what you want..."
Most adjust to 50kms... to tally with the 30km's per day statistics..



YES!

Stock number 17860 [the very first one on the page] has 34,272km

Also, stock number 17798 also on page one, has 16,664km! and it's a 2005 unit!!!!!


Mukiha! umetupotea sana... you good?

The first car is on display. second car the last digit is a 1 you may have missed that detail.
mukiha
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:06:41 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
mukiha wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Take a good look here http://delights.jp/db2/stock.php

Look at the manufacture year and look at the mileage
Do you see any car with mileage less than 40K kms?
I know a few importers and they told me..
"never ask about mileage..we will always give you what you want..."
Most adjust to 50kms... to tally with the 30km's per day statistics..



YES!

Stock number 17860 [the very first one on the page] has 34,272km

Also, stock number 17798 also on page one, has 16,664km! and it's a 2005 unit!!!!!


Mukiha! umetupotea sana... you good?

The first car is on display. second car the last digit is a 1 you may have missed that detail.


Nope!

C&P:

delights wrote:

2009/8, AUDI A5, ABA-8FCALF
FAT, Red, 34272kms

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gabrahamas
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 03, 2012 1:10:38 PM
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True!! True!!
Never ask for mileage on most imported used cars because you will be given what ask for, better to look at the condition of the car to gauge mileage...most imported car buyers in Kenya would like to see a sub-50K mileage, and that's exactly what the dealers give them, even on some obviously high mileage car(with worn out steering wheel and/or seats, interior bits etc)
there are some genuine low mileage units, when I lived in Japan I saw many cars that have very low mileage because most owners use the train, they usually cycle to the nearest train station and leave their cars in the parking lots. Parking in business districts is VERY EXPENSIVE so most guys don't use cars that much, I had a neighbor who only used his Forester STI for only around 1 week in a year.
however, these very low mileage cars are also rather costly at the Used Car Auctions therefore most dealers opt for the cheaper higher mileage vehicles and then rewind the mileage when the vehicle arrives at the Port/Yard in Kenya.
I am told rewinding mileage is huge business in Mombasa.
livie
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:54:18 AM
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gabrahamas wrote:
True!! True!!
Never ask for mileage on most imported used cars because you will be given what ask for, better to look at the condition of the car to gauge mileage...most imported car buyers in Kenya would like to see a sub-50K mileage, and that's exactly what the dealers give them, even on some obviously high mileage car(with worn out steering wheel and/or seats, interior bits etc)
there are some genuine low mileage units, when I lived in Japan I saw many cars that have very low mileage because most owners use the train, they usually cycle to the nearest train station and leave their cars in the parking lots. Parking in business districts is VERY EXPENSIVE so most guys don't use cars that much, I had a neighbor who only used his Forester STI for only around 1 week in a year.
however, these very low mileage cars are also rather costly at the Used Car Auctions therefore most dealers opt for the cheaper higher mileage vehicles and then rewind the mileage when the vehicle arrives at the Port/Yard in Kenya.
I am told rewinding mileage is huge business in Mombasa.



any leads, contacts?
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jaggernaut
#18 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:03:11 PM
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I understand this is how they do the rewinding.

Quote:
Technically they cannot reverse the meters. So what they do is open up the meter and take out an IC which they replace with another one that is pre programmed and shows zero mileage. then they attach the meter to a motor and spin the meter so that it thinks that the car is moving. in this way they take the meter to the mileage they want. technically they cannot reverse these meters so they start from zero and take them to the desired mileage!
jaggernaut
#19 Posted : Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:08:11 PM
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mukiha wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
mukiha wrote:
poundfoolish wrote:
Take a good look here http://delights.jp/db2/stock.php

Look at the manufacture year and look at the mileage
Do you see any car with mileage less than 40K kms?
I know a few importers and they told me..
"never ask about mileage..we will always give you what you want..."
Most adjust to 50kms... to tally with the 30km's per day statistics..



YES!

Stock number 17860 [the very first one on the page] has 34,272km

Also, stock number 17798 also on page one, has 16,664km! and it's a 2005 unit!!!!!


Mukiha! umetupotea sana... you good?

The first car is on display. second car the last digit is a 1 you may have missed that detail.


Nope!

C&P:

delights wrote:

2009/8, AUDI A5, ABA-8FCALF
FAT, Red, 34272kms



Thats a 2009 car and most likely will be have hit 100,000kms by the time its 7yrs old.
sizzla
#20 Posted : Friday, October 05, 2012 8:01:15 AM
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gabrahamas wrote:
True!! True!!
Never ask for mileage on most imported used cars because you will be given what ask for, better to look at the condition of the car to gauge mileage...most imported car buyers in Kenya would like to see a sub-50K mileage, and that's exactly what the dealers give them, even on some obviously high mileage car(with worn out steering wheel and/or seats, interior bits etc)
there are some genuine low mileage units, when I lived in Japan I saw many cars that have very low mileage because most owners use the train, they usually cycle to the nearest train station and leave their cars in the parking lots. Parking in business districts is VERY EXPENSIVE so most guys don't use cars that much, I had a neighbor who only used his Forester STI for only around 1 week in a year.
however, these very low mileage cars are also rather costly at the Used Car Auctions therefore most dealers opt for the cheaper higher mileage vehicles and then rewind the mileage when the vehicle arrives at the Port/Yard in Kenya.
I am told rewinding mileage is huge business in Mombasa.


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