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Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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MJ wrote:Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism. Some Muslims do these things. Just as some Christians hate and demonize Muslims. The class of criminals also includes Buddhists, Hindus, and the rest of the list. So, for us to speak intelligibly, we must have better 'grammar.'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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MJ wrote:Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism. What about terrorism in the name of Islam?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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in general there are more militant muslims than in any other religion #FACT
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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Oh and by the way, MUHURI, the Imams and representatives of the religion of peace have not even condemned the violence and destruction of churches in Mombasa.
...but they have asked for the arrest of Rogo's killers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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kollabo wrote:Oh and by the way, MUHURI, the Imams and representatives of the religion of peace have not even condemned the violence and destruction of churches in Mombasa.
...but they have asked for the arrest of Rogo's killers. You will wait until heaven comes.I am certain 99% muslims are celebrating behind closed doors. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Njung'e wrote:kollabo wrote:Oh and by the way, MUHURI, the Imams and representatives of the religion of peace have not even condemned the violence and destruction of churches in Mombasa.
...but they have asked for the arrest of Rogo's killers. You will wait until heaven comes.I am certain 99% muslims are celebrating behind closed doors. yes they did, listen again to the clips in which they demanded for the arrest of Rogo's killers, they also condemned the burning of 'sehemu za kaubudu' and looting of property. I believe by 'sehemu za kuabudu' they meant churches, or didn't they?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2007 Posts: 47
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kollabo wrote:MJ wrote:Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism. What about terrorism in the name of Islam? It's exactly that, terrorism in the name of islam. Just the way we had terrorism in the name of christianity (remember the deadly crusades?)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2007 Posts: 47
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pariah wrote:in general there are more militant muslims than in any other religion #FACT Agreed. Does that make all muslims militant (read terrorists)?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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MJ wrote:kollabo wrote:MJ wrote:Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism. What about terrorism in the name of Islam? It's exactly that, terrorism in the name of islam. Just the way we had terrorism in the name of christianity (remember the deadly crusades?) The only deadly crusades i remember are those which bombs were planted/exploded as people were worshiping. Christians fight the devil, by rebuking him and fighting his temptations. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2007 Posts: 47
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murchr wrote:MJ wrote:kollabo wrote:MJ wrote:Muslims don't burn churches or hurl grenades/shoot at christian worshipers, muslims don't stop people in the streets and stab them, muslims don't hurl grenades at police. Muslims are my brothers and my sisters,my friends(literally)...my country men and women...my fellow human beings. We must differentiate between muslims and criminals, between Islam and terrorism. What about terrorism in the name of Islam? It's exactly that, terrorism in the name of islam. Just the way we had terrorism in the name of christianity (remember the deadly crusades?) The only deadly crusades i remember are those which bombs were planted/exploded as people were worshiping. Christians fight the devil, by rebuking him and fighting his temptations. Then you need to dig deeper into that word crusade, you can start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
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"An imam in the mosque shouted through the speaker 'blood for blood', and immediately youths started stoning cars," said witness Dennis Odhiambo, whose car was damaged and who was forced to flee into a police station for safety.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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I really do not know why Muslims bristle when the word terrorism is mentioned yet they never condemn the acts of the radicals. Where are the so called moderate Muslims when hoodlums are burning churches in the name of their religion and throwing grenades at policemen out to keep peace? Al quaida would never have gotten the far it did were it not for the tacit support they receive from their so called moderates. I still recall the images of some Muslims celebrating 9/11. Islam simply has to choose peace and act like it really wants it. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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"Sheikh Mohammed Dor (nominated) said that it was shocking that almost a full day after the killing, which took place in broad daylight, no arrests had been made. He said that it was “unfortunate” that there were reports of the youth arrested as a result of the clashes, but none of those suspected to have sprayed bullets on Aboud Rogo's van had been apprehended."
...still no renouncing of attacks on the churches.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182
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A Michuki on those "youths" will do it for me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/20/2007 Posts: 47
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harrydre wrote:well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route. well put 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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harrydre wrote:well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route. Totally agree; nothing further to add. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Elder wrote:harrydre wrote:well statistics show a majority of terrorists are muslims, just same way Mawe FC is dominantly Luo and Mungiki is mostly Kikuyu so let's cut the crap here...most muslims are good people and islam as a faith is okay, however there is a small section like the MRC/Alshabaab that want to start a religious war in Mombasa & NEP. We must condemn them and refuse to take part in this. These are cowards and their power is coming to an end soon. We don't want to go Nigeria or Middle East route. Totally agree; nothing further to add. This the moment of truth to know who stands on whose side. Those for terrorists and whose for peace. Recall; you are either with us or with the enemy? By Bush?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/31/2008 Posts: 163 Location: Nirvana
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MJ wrote:pariah wrote:in general there are more militant muslims than in any other religion #FACT Agreed. Does that make all muslims militant (read terrorists)? No. But the perception here is influenced by the complacity of the rest of the Muslim fraternity in condemning the actions of the extremists. For instance, Michuki played a big role in clipping the wings of Mungiki. The muslim leaders are always on defence mode and view those who condemn as attacking the Islam faith...sasa we don't even know who is who..no wonder the blanket condemnation. If my blood brother killed someone, I would be the first to turn him in. |The Universe will correspond to the nature of your song ...
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