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Wish or Premio
washiku
#1 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 9:01:59 PM
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Hi Wazuans...I need your wisdom. Which car is better between a wish and a premio?
Impunity
#2 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 9:40:08 PM
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Wish you can get your hand on a premio!
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Euge
#3 Posted : Friday, July 20, 2012 11:13:16 PM
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A premio is more of a kaa ngumu than a wish. But a wish has more pasanger capacity.
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matata
#4 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:44:10 AM
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Premio is more strong! no regrets if u get ur hands on a good one!
kamundu
#5 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:31:22 AM
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Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.
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Impunity
#6 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:35:05 AM
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kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Please explain that highlighted above in details and giving figures where necessary.
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otienosmall
#7 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:04:22 PM
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Impunity wrote:
kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Please explain that highlighted above in details and giving figures where necessary.



A 2L engine on a h/w will keep 100km/hr on 5 gear on your foot barely touching gas pedal. A 1.5 or lesser cc mostly comes with 4th gear as the highest and also due to low power, for you to keep like 100km/hr, you have to flatten gas pedal. For long distance, the small car consumes more
Impunity
#8 Posted : Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:21:16 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Please explain that highlighted above in details and giving figures where necessary.



A 2L engine on a h/w will keep 100km/hr on 5 gear on your foot barely touching gas pedal. A 1.5 or lesser cc mostly comes with 4th gear as the highest and also due to low power, for you to keep like 100km/hr, you have to flatten gas pedal. For long distance, the small car consumes more


So 1800cc premio is the same weight as a 2000cc?
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#9 Posted : Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:12:38 AM
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You can also think of a sienta!
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Impunity
#10 Posted : Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:59:03 PM
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Impunity wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Impunity wrote:
kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Please explain that highlighted above in details and giving figures where necessary.



A 2L engine on a h/w will keep 100km/hr on 5 gear on your foot barely touching gas pedal. A 1.5 or lesser cc mostly comes with 4th gear as the highest and also due to low power, for you to keep like 100km/hr, you have to flatten gas pedal. For long distance, the small car consumes more


So 1800cc premio is the same weight as a 2000cc?


My crystal balls tells me this: (curb weight)

1800cc Premio = 1170kgs
2000cc Premio = 1240kgs

Is the 70kgs insignificant?
Think of a whole invincible person the weight of @chemos always seating somewhere in the vehicle!
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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washiku
#11 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 1:44:27 PM
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kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Thanks guys...premio it is!!! I am ever grateful for your kind resposes.
washiku
#12 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 2:15:09 PM
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And as a by the way, what is the major difference between the F, G, E and such other classes?
accelriskconsult
#13 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 2:27:10 PM
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washiku wrote:
kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Thanks guys...premio it is!!! I am ever grateful for your kind resposes.



I am not sure that Premio is any better than Wish.

In pure performance terms, the wish should outperform the premio any day. again in looks the wish would outdo the premio. passenger capacity, the wish would outdo the premio. side mirror susceptibility to theft, the wish loses on that count but chain them like everyone else does. Take off and overtaking speeds, the wish would outdo the premio (these are important for safety reasons!).

I am no expert but having hired and driven both models, I would recommend the Wish.
tuvok
#14 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 2:58:51 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
washiku wrote:
kamundu wrote:
Premio any day. Especially the 2007 model. Buy 1.8 or 2L the 1.5 is a joke. Engine to small to carry that body so it kunywas more long distance.


Thanks guys...premio it is!!! I am ever grateful for your kind resposes.



I am not sure that Premio is any better than Wish.

In pure performance terms, the wish should outperform the premio any day. again in looks the wish would outdo the premio. passenger capacity, the wish would outdo the premio. side mirror susceptibility to theft, the wish loses on that count but chain them like everyone else does. Take off and overtaking speeds, the wish would outdo the premio (these are important for safety reasons!).

I am no expert but having hired and driven both models, I would recommend the Wish.



Hehehe.

No. In terms of take off, it's all about what's under the bonnet. I bet you drove the 1.5L premio. (i.e. the F spec, vs the X and G)

Wish comes in 1.8 and 2.0L guises which are shared with the Premio X and G respectively (the 1ZZ-FE and 1AZ-FSE engines), so power and torque are out of the window.

7 seater vs 5 seater. Personal preference. My old school thinking is that of 7+ seating being the reserve of full size SUVs or vans :)

Looks are rather subjective, since I wouldn't be seen driving a Wish.

brav
#15 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 3:07:35 PM
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Quote:
I am not sure that Premio is any better than Wish.

In pure performance terms, the wish should outperform the premio any day. again in looks the wish would outdo the premio. passenger capacity, the wish would outdo the premio. side mirror susceptibility to theft, the wish loses on that count but chain them like everyone else does. Take off and overtaking speeds, the wish would outdo the premio (these are important for safety reasons!).

I am no expert but having hired and driven both models, I would recommend the Wish.



^^^^ enough said


A wish anytime.


Money Whisperer
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:48:15 PM
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Applause exactly! since they share and engine and other things then the difference comes in their response to the laws of physics where Wish loses big time because of its perceived "advantages"

If wishes were premio
tuvok wrote:

Hehehe.

No. In terms of take off, it's all about what's under the bonnet. I bet you drove the 1.5L premio. (i.e. the F spec, vs the X and G)

Wish comes in 1.8 and 2.0L guises which are shared with the Premio X and G respectively (the 1ZZ-FE and 1AZ-FSE engines), so power and torque are out of the window.

7 seater vs 5 seater. Personal preference. My old school thinking is that of 7+ seating being the reserve of full size SUVs or vans :)

Looks are rather subjective, since I wouldn't be seen driving a Wish.


"Money never sleeps"
abdulrahman
#17 Posted : Friday, July 27, 2012 8:53:33 AM
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Premio it is !
254.co.ke
#18 Posted : Friday, July 27, 2012 10:11:29 AM
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Buy a car, those two are pets...as in you need to chain them.Anyway given a choice between those two only,Premio will do.
Nobby
#19 Posted : Friday, July 27, 2012 10:41:26 AM
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A Premio any day!!
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accelriskconsult
#20 Posted : Friday, July 27, 2012 11:16:41 AM
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Guys I hope that even as you recommend the Premio, you have driven both models.

As for the Premio vs Wish looks, my take on the Premio is that its shape suggests that Toyota aimed to produce a poor man's imitation of a Benz. Its a wanna be car!
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