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Cement Industry in Kenya
eboomerang
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:17:49 AM
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If the story I'm seeing on Nation is anything to go by, I really wonder who upholds the interests of public shareholders.

The gist of the story goes as follows...

Quote:
The government holds 25 per cent shares in the Portland Cement, Lafarge 41 per cent, and NSSF holds 27 per cent. The government is represented in the board by two permanent secretaries.

The specific allegations against Lafarge by the authority are the following: First, that its subsidiary, Bamburi Cement Ltd, is the leading cement manufacturer in Kenya.

Secondly, that it holds 41 per cent in East African Portland, making it the single largest shareholder in this rival firm.

And finally, that Lafarge has two representatives on the board of Portland, enabling it to know the strategies of its rival.



In other words, Lafarge through their investments run a disguised monopoly in Kenya.

Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet allowed to have two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that.

The conflict of interests within Portland's board would not allow for any meaningful business growth, no wonder the company is such a problematic situation.
VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:24:08 AM
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eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
eboomerang
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:28:58 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.
Chaka
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:04:20 PM
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At some stage these Bamburi guys also had a 14 pc stake in ARM...
VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:56:45 PM
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@chaka - ARM was about to collapse so Bamburi gave them a loan [& supplied clinker on credit] which was then converted into shares. ARM shares had fallen to 3/- at the time.

Clinker is a key raw material for cement manufacturing.

If not for Bamburi's support, ARM would have probably gone bankrupt.

BTW, did you know Microsoft gave Apple $150mn as a loan/equity many years ago? It also agreed to support Apple by creating/developing Mac OS versions of Microsoft Office. Without MS Office, many users would not have moved to using Apple's computers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:19:32 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that
.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.


Welcome to business my friend. Anyway who said monopolies are not allowed. The only thing that is controlled is anti-competitive behavior, not the formation of conglomerates.
Life is short. Live passionately.
eboomerang
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:58:13 PM
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sparkly wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that
.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.


Welcome to business my friend. Anyway who said monopolies are not allowed. The only thing that is controlled is anti-competitive behavior, not the formation of conglomerates.

While creating or running a monopoly is not illegal, this particular case is quite smelly in the sense that these are two independent companies and Lafarge has over time aqcuired a controlling share in the company. That is the heinous part.

This kind of business practice may seem normal in Kenya but I can tell you there is something very abnormal about the structure of this company.

If you can recall how this situation exploded, NSSF wanted to offload some little amount shares from Portland, but that meant that the "government's collective number of shares" both NSSF and direct government through treasury would reduce and loose the threshold required to make it a parastatal.

Somehow, someone had conviced another somebody in NSSF to offload the shares. Now that I'm thinking about it, the shares NSSF was trying to offload were little percentage wise, just enough to allow the holding to drop slightly below the required threshold.

Anyhow, the fellows in Portland then tried to use that window and ran to make the company private. That is when the "government" through CMA realized that they had shot themselves on the foot.

Someone in that Portland board knows or knew what they were trying to achieve by hurredly trying to privatize the the company.

Portland needs a strongly willed CEO who will wipe out this mess and indeed buy back some shares from Lafarge and oust them from the board.

A board that is infiltrated by competitors can not clearly allow the execution of a plan that will make them better than the competitors. The same board also cannot be trusted stewards of shareholder's interest due to a conflict of interest on the expected performance of the company.
murchr
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:06:31 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
sparkly wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that
.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.


Welcome to business my friend. Anyway who said monopolies are not allowed. The only thing that is controlled is anti-competitive behavior, not the formation of conglomerates.

While creating or running a monopoly is not illegal, this particular case is quite smelly in the sense that these are two independent companies and Lafarge has over time aqcuired a controlling share in the company. That is the heinous part.

This kind of business practice may seem normal in Kenya but I can tell you there is something very abnormal about the structure of this company.

If you can recall how this situation exploded, NSSF wanted to offload some little amount shares from Portland, but that meant that the "government's collective number of shares" both NSSF and direct government through treasury would reduce and loose the threshold required to make it a parastatal.

Somehow, someone had conviced another somebody in NSSF to offload the shares. Now that I'm thinking about it, the shares NSSF was trying to offload were little percentage wise, just enough to allow the holding to drop slightly below the required threshold.

Anyhow, the fellows in Portland then tried to use that window and ran to make the company private. That is when the "government" through CMA realized that they had shot themselves on the foot.

Someone in that Portland board knows or knew what they were trying to achieve by hurredly trying to privatize the the company.

Portland needs a strongly willed CEO who will wipe out this mess and indeed buy back some shares from Lafarge and oust them from the board.

A board that is infiltrated by competitors can not clearly allow the execution of a plan that will make them better than the competitors. The same board also cannot be trusted stewards of shareholder's interest due to a conflict of interest on the expected performance of the company.



When i put my money in my competition my objective is to make money out of his outfit...in other words to have a piece of his pie. It is a strategy allowed in business.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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eboomerang
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:24:26 PM
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murchr wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
sparkly wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that
.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.


Welcome to business my friend. Anyway who said monopolies are not allowed. The only thing that is controlled is anti-competitive behavior, not the formation of conglomerates.

While creating or running a monopoly is not illegal, this particular case is quite smelly in the sense that these are two independent companies and Lafarge has over time aqcuired a controlling share in the company. That is the heinous part.

This kind of business practice may seem normal in Kenya but I can tell you there is something very abnormal about the structure of this company.

If you can recall how this situation exploded, NSSF wanted to offload some little amount shares from Portland, but that meant that the "government's collective number of shares" both NSSF and direct government through treasury would reduce and loose the threshold required to make it a parastatal.

Somehow, someone had conviced another somebody in NSSF to offload the shares. Now that I'm thinking about it, the shares NSSF was trying to offload were little percentage wise, just enough to allow the holding to drop slightly below the required threshold.

Anyhow, the fellows in Portland then tried to use that window and ran to make the company private. That is when the "government" through CMA realized that they had shot themselves on the foot.

Someone in that Portland board knows or knew what they were trying to achieve by hurredly trying to privatize the the company.

Portland needs a strongly willed CEO who will wipe out this mess and indeed buy back some shares from Lafarge and oust them from the board.

A board that is infiltrated by competitors can not clearly allow the execution of a plan that will make them better than the competitors. The same board also cannot be trusted stewards of shareholder's interest due to a conflict of interest on the expected performance of the company.



When i put my money in my competition my objective is to make money out of his outfit...in other words to have a piece of his pie. It is a strategy allowed in business.


From a governance perspective such an argument does not hold. There is a clear conflict of interest.

Just as an example, Eric Schimdt(former Google's CEO) was sitting on Apple's board until Google decided to go into Android -he had to leave the board once the two companies became competitors.
murchr
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:35:09 PM
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eboomerang wrote:
murchr wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
sparkly wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
Guys, how did we get into such a situation where a clearly defined competitor is allowed to invest and gain such a controlling stake and better yet gain two seats on the board of a competitor?

Corporate governance 101 does not allow you to do that
.
Corporate Governance? Liar Liar Liar It has nothing (directly) to do with Bamburi.

Anyway, google is your friend, so a little research will help. If you are still stuck then ask again...

What are you talking about?? and who said Bamburi has issues with governance? Please re-read my post and understand the argument.

All these issues are about structures and control mechanisms applied to companies, and are as such squarely issues of corporate governance.


Welcome to business my friend. Anyway who said monopolies are not allowed. The only thing that is controlled is anti-competitive behavior, not the formation of conglomerates.

While creating or running a monopoly is not illegal, this particular case is quite smelly in the sense that these are two independent companies and Lafarge has over time aqcuired a controlling share in the company. That is the heinous part.

This kind of business practice may seem normal in Kenya but I can tell you there is something very abnormal about the structure of this company.

If you can recall how this situation exploded, NSSF wanted to offload some little amount shares from Portland, but that meant that the "government's collective number of shares" both NSSF and direct government through treasury would reduce and loose the threshold required to make it a parastatal.

Somehow, someone had conviced another somebody in NSSF to offload the shares. Now that I'm thinking about it, the shares NSSF was trying to offload were little percentage wise, just enough to allow the holding to drop slightly below the required threshold.

Anyhow, the fellows in Portland then tried to use that window and ran to make the company private. That is when the "government" through CMA realized that they had shot themselves on the foot.

Someone in that Portland board knows or knew what they were trying to achieve by hurredly trying to privatize the the company.

Portland needs a strongly willed CEO who will wipe out this mess and indeed buy back some shares from Lafarge and oust them from the board.

A board that is infiltrated by competitors can not clearly allow the execution of a plan that will make them better than the competitors. The same board also cannot be trusted stewards of shareholder's interest due to a conflict of interest on the expected performance of the company.



When i put my money in my competition my objective is to make money out of his outfit...in other words to have a piece of his pie. It is a strategy allowed in business.


From a governance perspective such an argument does not hold. There is a clear conflict of interest.

Just as an example, Eric Schimdt(former Google's CEO) was sitting on Apple's board until Google decided to go into Android -he had to leave the board once the two companies became competitors.



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