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Unit Trust Investors- Old Mutual Equity Fund
nikimani
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:40:04 PM
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hi guys,For investors who prefer investing in Unit Trusts,the old mutual equity fund has been shooting up,from a low of ksh.217 in November 2011 to a high of ksh.266 today and this is just the begining,for you smart guys who know when to get in,this is it. If any of you guys are interested drop ua mail here,i send you perfomance and projection from 2002 to now...or drop me a mail at nicholas.mwangi@oldmutualkenya.com
Chaka
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:57:40 PM
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The smart guys should have joined in Nov 2011 !You should also have put a caveat i.e "past performance is not an indication of future performance"...
QW25091985
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:04:57 PM
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nikimani wrote:
hi guys,For investors who prefer investing in Unit Trusts,the old mutual equity fund has been shooting up,from a low of ksh.217 in November 2011 to a high of ksh.266 today and this is just the begining,for you smart guys who know when to get in,this is it. If any of you guys are interested drop ua mail here,i send you perfomance and projection from 2002 to now...or drop me a mail at nicholas.mwangi@oldmutualkenya.com


what are these . hebu look at the stock market . we are in a bull market and you are telling folks to buy unit trusts ..lol
Do yourself a favour buy stocks . Do your colleges a favour and tell them to buy stocks NOW . then sell those unit trusts to all the suckers you are targeting
nikimani
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:13:45 PM
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@veteran,they did and are very happy lot speculatively waiting to cash in when the time and price is right.unfortunately Some panicked after investing in during high's of ksh.299. and getting out at in the same November ksh.217.now that is the angry lot, its all a matter of timing.
hisah
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:21:10 PM
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If old mutual is scouting for clients at wazua I give up...! Btw isn't this advertising?

@nikimani - why is this the best time to buy into the equity fund?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
nikimani
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:26:04 PM
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@QW25091985,i agree with you the bull is finally stirring up. Unit Trusts however offer a range of benefits,1. security 2. Professional management 3.Pooled resources 4.Diversified Portfolio. If you got the time and are willing to bear the risk the market exposes to your portfolio..go right ahead.
nikimani
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 3:43:33 PM
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@hisah, over time there is a pattern of the fund being low before any major political event in the country,i.e 2004/5 constitution referendum price ksh.157 and shooting up when things return to "normal" i.e 2006 price Ksh.284, basicaly its just taking advantage of macroeconomic factors.
hisah
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:18:40 PM
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nikimani wrote:
@hisah, over time there is a pattern of the fund being low before any major political event in the country,i.e 2004/5 constitution referendum price ksh.157 and shooting up when things return to "normal" i.e 2006 price Ksh.284, basicaly its just taking advantage of macroeconomic factors.

Thanks for the feedback. I hope you are factoring both internal and external macro factors esp the coming eurozone mess.

Another query, why don't unit trusts reveal their equity portfolio? Why keep it a secret?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
accelriskconsult
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:22:16 PM
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nikimani wrote:
@veteran,they did and are very happy lot speculatively waiting to cash in when the time and price is right.unfortunately Some panicked after investing in during high's of ksh.299. and getting out at in the same November ksh.217.now that is the angry lot, its all a matter of timing.



Kimani this is the wrong place to advertise unit trusts. We all know that the devil is in the details. We know that those rosy charts are not exactly what investors get from the unit trusts.

Any Wazuans who may be misled into this, make sure;

(1) You get to understand who the investment managers in the unit trust you are investing in are
(2) Their track records
(3) Whether the investment objective of the sponsor i.e Old Mutual as the same as yours- Remember the investment managers will take decisions on the portfolio based on the sponsors strategic objectives. They make money when you are losing (most of the time) and when you are winning (rarely).

I have heard of people who made money investing directly in the markets, but I am yet to meet an investor in a unit trust with a success story!
QW25091985
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:27:12 PM
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Yeah me too. i have heard bad bad things about this unit trusts .especially the fund managers track record
better to buy stocks you understand and enjoy the benefits other than risk with unit trusts .
i mean if you DONOT even know what the fund managers are buying how the heck will you even sleep at night . they might be speculation on paka . lol
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