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Fish Farming Investment
Stine
#1 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2012 12:00:45 PM
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Anyone heard of Joy fish farming or Integrated Farming Solutions Ltd? They have large scale fish ponds in ruai and Kikuyu and the deal with mad fish. You put in 120K per pond, each pond has 1000 fingerlings, then after 10 months you get 70% return on investment. Looking to invest there soon and would like a wazuarians success story before I do.... Anyone here who has a success story on this investment?
Elder
#2 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2012 5:44:11 PM
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Stine wrote:
Anyone heard of Joy fish farming or Integrated Farming Solutions Ltd? They have large scale fish ponds in ruai and Kikuyu and the deal with mad fish. You put in 120K per pond, each pond has 1000 fingerlings, then after 10 months you get 70% return on investment. Looking to invest there soon and would like a wazuarians success story before I do.... Anyone here who has a success story on this investment?

Gani hiyo. What are the terms and conditions?
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Stine
#3 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 2:34:41 PM
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They have a fish farming site at Ruai and Kikuyu. I have only visited the one at Ruai and it's a huge project. The terms are you pay 120k then your given a fish pond which holds about 1000-1500 cat fish. The fish weigh btwn 1-1.4kg each when they are ready for sale. The company Joy fish farm buys the fish at 140Ksh or is it 150Ksh per Kg. Alternatively they come and set up the fish pond in your land you pay the 120K and they train your caretaker when the fish areready for harvesting which is btwn 9-10mths you can decide to sell to them or find your own market. Was actually surprised most of the fillet Kenyans eat is cat fish....
Assuming after the fish rearing period you get 1000 fish from your pond weighing 1.4kg average.
You get 1000*1.4*140 = Ksh 196000
I'm working with minimum, it could be more. I'm actually surprised wazuarians don know abt it.
Gathige
#4 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 4:16:39 PM
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@Stine,
There is an oversupply of fish after fish ponds were done all over the country through Economic Stimulus Plans. I hear in Central Kenya there ponds all over and people are not eating enough of the fish. Try buying what is there already and sell at a premium if you can get the market.
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mungaits
#5 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 11:08:07 PM
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I have been to the Kikuyu farm, amazing stuff. You have to see to believe! The ponds are done in a greenhouse to ensure early maturity. Am also planning to give it a try later in the year.

They also sell finger-lings, fish food, fillets plus offer training sessions.

I can link you with them if you need more info or a tour/visit.

Follow link below.
http://www.the-star.co.k...ouses-for-fish-farming-

Asanteni
Chaka
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:02:27 AM
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@mungaits,
What do they feed the fish with and is the tour free?
Having read the fish farming story in the link,I wonder whether the economic stimulus thing was well though out?i.e the government was busy dishing out cash without any technical support and thus the beneficiaries had to learn the hard way..quite wasteful I must say.
Stine
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:22:47 PM
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@Gathige
The problem is I don't have the time to look for the market myself.
I know there is alot of fish farming but you need to find a mkt. These guys can't meet the demand for cat fish both locally and internationally so I guess thez lots of demand out there. I guess I'll jump in n see if mine will be a success story.

@Mungaits
Before the tour was free now pple pay 1000.
The fish feed on some stuff that has omena in it plus I think algae.
mwendiuthaka
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:26:03 PM
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joyfish has a ksh 10,000 charge for their one hour training visit at the ruai farm for a party of up to 10 persons(whether 1 or 10)If interested they can set up your fish operation for ksh 100,000 per pond with a minimum of 5 ponds if within nairobi(500,000minimum)which includes construction,fingerlings and feed for the 8months it takes to harvest.they will also visit bi-weekly to give input where needed.Its contractual so they will buy your fish when ready for market-gauranteed.again minimum investment is 500,000ksh plus the 10,000 for training.just talked to them for info.
Chaka
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:47:00 PM
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How high is the raised 4 x 2 metre pond so as to hold 1000 fish and what is it made of?
I personally find the 8 months for the fish to mature too long.Does anyone know if the raised ponds can be used to rear say prawns ?
Does anyone here have a photo of this pond?
matata
#10 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 10:41:20 AM
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This is very interesting. I have constructed 10 fish ponds in Western Kenya, Webuye, I want to try it out but am yet to get the fingerling. I should check with those Kikuyu guys if they could do that for me but at a cheaper price coz the fish ponds r ready. Am not sure about the market in Western Kenya. I had done some research, and found out that I need to get Market for me to sell in large quantities.With this thread am encouraged to carry on.
Chaka
#11 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 12:46:08 PM
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Can someone tell me about the taste of farmed fish vis-a-vis lake fish?Is it like broiler chicken as compared to kienyeji?
wilyum
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:36:32 AM
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talk of being innovative and product diversification, here we go FISH SAUSAGES

SAUSAGES
Oaks
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:26:17 PM
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Stine wrote:
They have a fish farming site at Ruai and Kikuyu. I have only visited the one at Ruai and it's a huge project. The terms are you pay 120k then your given a fish pond which holds about 1000-1500 cat fish. The fish weigh btwn 1-1.4kg each when they are ready for sale. The company Joy fish farm buys the fish at 140Ksh or is it 150Ksh per Kg. Alternatively they come and set up the fish pond in your land you pay the 120K and they train your caretaker when the fish areready for harvesting which is btwn 9-10mths you can decide to sell to them or find your own market. Was actually surprised most of the fillet Kenyans eat is cat fish....
Assuming after the fish rearing period you get 1000 fish from your pond weighing 1.4kg average.
You get 1000*1.4*140 = Ksh 196000
I'm working with minimum, it could be more. I'm actually surprised wazuarians don know abt it.


Thought most of the fillet is Nile Perch? Whose quantities are very depleted and demand by the filleting companies high.
Can Nile Perch servive in Fish Ponds? Cause if they can, there is guaranteed demand.

As for the taste, they are quite different, for the expert eaters, but considering that most of it is filleted and refrigirated
Mukiri
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:55:13 PM
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'There is safety in numbers'

I was a paper-pusher, now I'm a (wannabe) farmer. I'm in my early 30's, single and male. If there is anyone out there who would like to combine resources and ideas, and have a go at this and/or other farming ventures, I'd be happy to meet you.

Proverbs 19:21
smallfama
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:51:40 AM
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This should come with a caveat. I talked to a guy who breeds and sells fingerlings. He told me the Joy fish farm were his customers and after some business with them he visited their farm. Their ponds cannot hold 1000 fish! He immediately stopped supplying them with the fingerlings to save his reputation as he didn't want to be part of the scheme to fleece wannabe fish farmers. This is another 'pyrabbit' scheme as one wazuan likes to say. If you want to keep fish, go to the ministry of fisheries and get good advise on the pond sizes otherwise RUN AWAY.
Lolest!
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:31:57 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Can someone tell me about the taste of farmed fish vis-a-vis lake fish?Is it like broiler chicken as compared to kienyeji?

this came up with another lady called Akinyi of Jambo fish farm in kiambu on a show on GBS tv at 7.30pm. Claims the taste is the same coz the feeds compensate for nutrients.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
jaggernaut
#17 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2014 10:26:45 PM
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Chaka wrote:
How high is the raised 4 x 2 metre pond so as to hold 1000 fish and what is it made of?
I personally find the 8 months for the fish to mature too long.Does anyone know if the raised ponds can be used to rear say prawns ?
Does anyone here have a photo of this pond?

I have seen a video of the fish farm....interesting...a 1000 fish in a 4x2m raised pond.. this means i can turn my backyard into a fish farm.

mawinder
#18 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 3:16:25 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Can someone tell me about the taste of farmed fish vis-a-vis lake fish?Is it like broiler chicken as compared to kienyeji?

It is obvious,the taste is miles apart.I can never eat those broiler fish from the ponds!!!!!!
Chanaleze
#19 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:15:14 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Chaka wrote:
Can someone tell me about the taste of farmed fish vis-a-vis lake fish?Is it like broiler chicken as compared to kienyeji?

It is obvious,the taste is miles apart.I can never eat those broiler fish from the ponds!!!!!!






I urge wazuans to ignore this freak(mawinder). He has no business of his own just meddle with other and put negative comments. I would ask administration to deactivate such fellows out of wazua website.. They are just a disgrace of our aggressive nation..




KulaRaha
#20 Posted : Saturday, January 11, 2014 7:28:36 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Can someone tell me about the taste of farmed fish vis-a-vis lake fish?Is it like broiler chicken as compared to kienyeji?


Actually, its not so easy to tell the diff. Like most salmon is farmed, wild salmon costs an arm and a leg, and unless you're a connoisseur, you would'nt know the diff.

I think Tilapia would be the way to go. Recently it costs more than chicken per kg.

Go figure.
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