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Magigi		#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:39:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		... A Saudi Arabian man has married an 8 year old girl. The father sold off the girl to pay debts. The husband,an old geezer,claims that he will not touch her until she attains puberty (can you believe him!!!). The girl does not want to be married. So it is a forced marriage. The case has gone to court and the court has looked at it from the religious point of view and seen nothing wrong with a marriage of an 8yr old girl. From what I have gathered,Prophet Mohammed married one of his 11 wives,Aisha,at a tender age of 6 years. Unbelievable!!! In Saudi Arabia,a woman is required to cover herself fully and there are religious policemen who move around to ensure this is strictly followed. A woman here is alo not allowed to drive any type of vehicle.
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Magigi		#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:41:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		...for thosewho know,after marrying these children,do the husbands wait until they mature or they just start right away? It is so worrying!
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xtina		#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:49:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 399		That is the strict version if Islam. Honestly i pray for Muslim women in those countries. I hope they go to heaven after experiencing hell on earth. God have mercy First there was white power,then black power,now there's no power!
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Kasheshi		#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:00 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 4/27/2008 Posts: 150		@ magigi,this has more to do with poverty and low education levels than with religion. I believe the maasai or some other pastorolist communities also do the same. It's a real shame R
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The Real Shaft		#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:56:00 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839		magigi* please do not misadvise...... the culture of those who proclaim Islam..... allow them to marry 6 year olds..... do not connect Islam and cultural marriages... these are two mutually exclusive events.... where in the Holy Books do we see an age limit...??? I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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Magigi		#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:52:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya		...@Kacheshi;....poverty in Saudi Arabia??? Tell me another lie.... Have those people in poverty stricken areas in Kenya sold their daughters? No,Their high moral standing can not allow them to do this. @Real: ...whether this is their culture or not,it is only a psycho who can sleep with a 6 year old in the name of wife!!!
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wote		#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:08:00 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 10/18/2007 Posts: 217		The Real Shaft,what law books did the judges look at in upholding the marriage of that 8 years old child to a 58 years old as valid? I stand to be corrected but view is that magigi is 100% correct,its the islamic law books which are based on the holy Quran. Which is the Islamic religion as opposed to culture. wote
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The Real Shaft		#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:30:00 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839		wote* magigi... someni vijana..... mwisho wakusoma......etc... Islam and Arabic culture are two distinct phenomena...... however,in the past 1400 years... the two have gelled...... in the Arabic peninsula.... 'marrying' 6 to 9 year olds was and is cultural..... not ISLAMIC.... and when we say 'marrying'.... it does not mean.... that there shall be consumation of that marriage...... it means becoming betrothed to.... the man... meaning the man who wishes to marry the 6 year old... will take care of her... health... education.... etc until she attains the age of majority.. which is 18 to 21years... when she can really get MARRIED..... sio kama huko..... it is a miracle to find a 21 year old virgin.... the Arabic world represents women more than you do........ I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....*
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Robinhood		#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:18:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306		shafty, i think you are burying your head in the sand bro. The grand mufti or whatever they call the highest ranking cleric in saudi arabia recently ruled that its ok for one to marry such children. The mother of the kid mentioned above has been trying to get this marriage annulled by the courts with no success so far. Surely if it was as easy as a simple betrothal the case would not be doing rounds in the courts. it seems as if this is a legal thing the courts have to declare null and void. BTW,is this not the same place where they practice honour killings? If a girl wants to opt out of the arranged marriage then she is killed for spoilling the family's honour? God is good Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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The Real Shaft		#10 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2009 7:44:00 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839		robinhood.. it is the classic misunderstanding...... misadvice...... misconstruction.... of the terro buru ceremony... even those who claim to belong to the communities that practise it..... they do not know half the meaning... they see it a chance to inherit other people's property (OPP).... and then the myopic fellows such as yours truly..... sees what these opportunistic fellows are up to... and we confirm that terro buru is a ceremony... to develop a harem.... there is always more to it than meets the 'eye'....or is it the 'I' I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....*
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