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Ndunduri gwa Kiongo
Kusadikika
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:30:51 PM
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This is not meant to be disrespectful to anybody. It is an exploratory thread on common Kenyan cultures. For those who are overly sensitive on matters tribal please do not be offended. I am hoping that by people contributing honestly people will get a better understanding of how different people view each other.

It is my understanding that every tribe in Kenya feels superior to all the others and they all have their Jinga tribe. This may be a bit too sensitive to go into but if you can shed light on this without being offensive I would like to know how people from different tribes view others.

What is however more interesting is that within tribes people from different areas always feel superior to people from other areas and there are plenty of Jokes about Jinga people from certain areas. Among the Kikuyu, I think the most famous place is Ndunduri. People from Ndunduri especially a place called gwa Kiongo are supposedly not very bright and they do all sorts of funny things like drink Uji from their gumboots and knock on the door of Hotels before they go in. I have met many people from Ndunduri and they too laugh at these jokes but I wonder how they came about.

My question is, what is the origin of these stereotypes? Do you have them in other tribes and what are they?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:52:40 PM
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Nduduri is a very cold and muddy place throughout the year and thus you will find majority of people donning gumboots throughout, maybe the reason it is rumored that they fancy the boots so much to a point of using them as mugs. The stupidity notion could have arisen from the fact that food supply is always in excess and there being no market since everybody is well endowed and coupled with poor roads, the food stuffs are sold at a throw away price. You cannot finish two mandazis in Ndunduri it’s like stupidity you wonder what profit they make..just my guessing……but take hearts your village is not necessary the most devoid of grey matter…smile
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:07:20 PM
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Surely, that Ka-Ndunduri village must be full of STUPID characters. The stereotyping that goes around cannot all be fake.

There is one guy who told me that 'dunduri' women do not remove their 'viondo's' (traditional bags) from their backs even in Matatus. Hii ni ukweli pia?
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:25:00 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Surely, that Ka-Ndunduri village must be full of STUPID characters. The stereotyping that goes around cannot all be fake.

There is one guy who told me that 'dunduri' women do not remove their 'viondo's' (traditional bags) from their backs even in Matatus. Hii ni ukweli pia?


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#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:14:06 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
Nduduri is a very cold and muddy place throughout the year and thus you will find majority of people donning gumboots throughout, maybe the reason it is rumored that they fancy the boots so much to a point of using them as mugs. The stupidity notion could have arisen from the fact that food supply is always in excess and there being no market since everybody is well endowed and coupled with poor roads, the food stuffs are sold at a throw away price. You cannot finish two mandazis in Ndunduri it’s like stupidity you wonder what profit they make..just my guessing……but take hearts your village is not necessary the most devoid of grey matter…smile



You clearly are not an otieno... which otieno knows so much about ndudori? That's my village though... The things they say are true... you see, we use the gumboots before we wear them... its not like we remove them from the legs and take porridge with them. As for the bags, I actually saw one lady here in nairobi who refused to have her kiondo put in the boot... i was really tempted to ask her if she's from ndudori... the reason this happens is because everytime the matatus at our place take the mzigo and put in the boot they charge the mzigo too... to avoid that charge, the women insist on carrying the kiondo themselves..... Am not sure what's so stupid about that... to me, they are pretty penny-wise.

As for the mandazis, you know even at home, and i bet it is in every village, when you are served food, you aren't put for kidogo food. The "pile" it till it starts overflowing on the sides... same as the tea in a cup and even when they give you water. they fill it to the brim.... so people are used to eating quite abit and given that the food is in plenty, there needs be no rationing. With that in mind, how do you then cook the Nairobi mandazis or mahamris and serve a whole grown man with a huge cup of tea? The mandazi has to be in sync with the cup of tea.... remember milk and water are in plenty.....

so, now you see?? It's not that bad.
Kusadikika
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:29:15 PM
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Who would have thought that Wendz is from Ndundori?!!!!

It is very interesting, it is my understanding that one of the reasons why people did not take Jesus seriously in his days was that he was from the Ndundori of Israel. I think its John 1:46 where someone asks if anything good can come out of Nazareth. He had an accent that immediately distinguished him as a Ndundori guy.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:28:04 PM
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@wendz, I always thought that you were joking when you said you are from Ndunduri.

On the chapos n mandazis, someone told me that wheat is also grown around there hence the generosity in the serving!
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:31:54 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
This is not meant to be disrespectful to anybody. It is an exploratory thread on common Kenyan cultures. For those who are overly sensitive on matters tribal please do not be offended. I am hoping that by people contributing honestly people will get a better understanding of how different people view each other.

It is my understanding that every tribe in Kenya feels superior to all the others and they all have their Jinga tribe. This may be a bit too sensitive to go into but if you can shed light on this without being offensive I would like to know how people from different tribes view others.

What is however more interesting is that within tribes people from different areas always feel superior to people from other areas and there are plenty of Jokes about Jinga people from certain areas. Among the Kikuyu, I think the most famous place is Ndunduri. People from Ndunduri especially a place called gwa Kiongo are supposedly not very bright and they do all sorts of funny things like drink Uji from their gumboots and knock on the door of Hotels before they go in. I have met many people from Ndunduri and they too laugh at these jokes but I wonder how they came about.

My question is, what is the origin of these stereotypes? Do you have them in other tribes and what are they?



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#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:35:41 PM
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Ngatho! So ndunduri hasnt changed a bit since we started making fun of the place some years back?

We were told that ndunduri people knock on buses to be allowed in.

And then its said they ngethia (stare) with all teeth out because of the strong winds which forces them to open their mouth.
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If you are the economy guy,take a girl to Ndunduri cz you will spend less than 50 bob and she will be happy.

God bless ndunduri

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otienosmall
#10 Posted : Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:14:19 AM
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Wendz wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Nduduri is a very cold and muddy place throughout the year and thus you will find majority of people donning gumboots throughout, maybe the reason it is rumored that they fancy the boots so much to a point of using them as mugs. The stupidity notion could have arisen from the fact that food supply is always in excess and there being no market since everybody is well endowed and coupled with poor roads, the food stuffs are sold at a throw away price. You cannot finish two mandazis in Ndunduri it’s like stupidity you wonder what profit they make..just my guessing……but take hearts your village is not necessary the most devoid of grey matter…smile



You clearly are not an otieno... which otieno knows so much about ndudori? That's my village though... The things they say are true... you see, we use the gumboots before we wear them... its not like we remove them from the legs and take porridge with them. As for the bags, I actually saw one lady here in nairobi who refused to have her kiondo put in the boot... i was really tempted to ask her if she's from ndudori... the reason this happens is because everytime the matatus at our place take the mzigo and put in the boot they charge the mzigo too... to avoid that charge, the women insist on carrying the kiondo themselves..... Am not sure what's so stupid about that... to me, they are pretty penny-wise.

As for the mandazis, you know even at home, and i bet it is in every village, when you are served food, you aren't put for kidogo food. The "pile" it till it starts overflowing on the sides... same as the tea in a cup and even when they give you water. they fill it to the brim.... so people are used to eating quite abit and given that the food is in plenty, there needs be no rationing. With that in mind, how do you then cook the Nairobi mandazis or mahamris and serve a whole grown man with a huge cup of tea? The mandazi has to be in sync with the cup of tea.... remember milk and water are in plenty.....

so, now you see?? It's not that bad.



I am an Otis who has travelled far and wide. I must admit Ndunduri is blessed. Used to go there to buy fruits and as little as 50bob you get a debe of plums and while leaving you get several free kilograms of the same to go enjoying on the way. Problem is the temptation of not thinking outside the box after all everything is there. I never knew Ndundurians ever leave the comfort of their village
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