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Total Kenya profit falls by 96%
dunkang
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:33:32 AM
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LINK: Today's Newspaper

(Reuters) - Fuel marketer Total Kenya posted a 96 percent drop in full-year profit to 58 million shillings ($697,700), and blamed a weakening Kenyan shilling against the dollar, inflation and price caps introduced in the sector in December 2010.

Total Kenya said in a statement published in newspapers on Wednesday that cost of sales rose by 49 percent during the year, but the company was unable to pass on these costs to the consumer as a result of the price controls.

Inflation and a weaker shilling also added to operating costs, the firm said.

Total Kenya said it would not pay a dividend for the year.

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GGK
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:44:21 AM
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I thought Total made a loss of Sh71.4 million loss for the full year ended Dec 2011,

The loss is down from the Sh916 million net profit the company made in the previous year
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mkonomtupu
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:03:55 AM
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once upon a time they used to pay 2.50 dividend now they struggle with finance costs up 63% @dunkang cut your losses and run
dunkang
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:09:23 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
once upon a time ..... @dunkang cut your losses and run


@Empty Handed, its only 1.46% in my current portfolio. So, i will just hold on, waiting for a miracle from Turkana Oil Fields in 2015.


@GGK, i think this reuters reported PBT. Am not sure though.
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hisah
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:47:36 AM
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I hope it can slide to 10 levels smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
GGK
#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:51:08 AM
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dunkang wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
once upon a time ..... @dunkang cut your losses and run


@Empty Handed, its only 1.46% in my current portfolio. So, i will just hold on, waiting for a miracle from Turkana Oil Fields in 2015.


@GGK, i think this reuters reported PBT. Am not sure though.


on Business Daily Africa, they are reporting a loss of 71 million, Which I doubt can be oz of taxes. If PBT is 0Ksh, PAT will be 0Ksh I thought
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dunkang
#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:06:55 PM
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From Reuters, here is the Link:

http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFN6E8CQ01V20120328

From Business Daily, here is the Link:

http://www.businessdaily.../-/hhc48kz/-/index.html

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Aguytrying
#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:31:33 PM
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And to imagine some were critiquing kenol kobil s results . I hope now people understand the phenomenal achievement for kk in 2011.
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digitek1
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2012 8:48:20 PM
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total used to have the highest dividend yield awhile back.
it seems the chevron deal hit hard
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
dunkang
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:17:34 AM
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And here comes the official report;

http://www.nse.co.ke/med...-year-ended-dec-31-2011

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maka
#11 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 10:08:47 AM
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There is something terribly wrong with this company last year might have been tough but there numbers are appaling to say the least...but i believe there will be a reversal on this going forward.
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dunkang
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:18:59 PM
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TOTAL KENYA LIMITED

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT


TOTAL KENYA LIMITED (the 'company') hereby GIVES NOTICE that TOTAL S.A., has undertaken an intern...


.....


By order of the Board

2 April 2012


See page 46 of today's Daily Nation (Tuesday April 3, 2012)
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:28:53 PM
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@dunkang, sounds like they want to retrench big time.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:10:14 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@dunkang, sounds like they want to retrench big time.


and the orders are coming from Paris. Hoping this will help make the pathetic results look better!

As you will remember OPEX had increased by 12%!
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guru267
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:02:41 PM
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maka wrote:
but i believe there will be a reversal on this going forward.


This can never come to pass.. If 2011 was so tough why did KK announce a 3.5 billion profit and yet 65% of its earnings are from the Kenyan market...

A bad company will always be a bad company no matter the environment...
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cnn
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:40:51 PM
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guru267 wrote:
maka wrote:
but i believe there will be a reversal on this going forward.


This can never come to pass.. If 2011 was so tough why did KK announce a 3.5 billion profit and yet 65% of its earnings are from the Kenyan market...

A bad company will always be a bad company no matter the environment...

They did beat KK in one area..managing forex losses.Had KK done as well we would have seen EPS come in at 3 bob and higher final dividend.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:46:59 PM
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cnn, could we term that a peril of operating in multiple markets, or do you think KK could be doing much better on that front regardless?
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cnn
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:54:24 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
cnn, could we term that a peril of operating in multiple markets, or do you think KK could be doing much better on that front regardless?

I think they did mention despite fluctuations across the markets ,it is the Kenyan one that hit them really hard,the same one that Total operates in...but i trust the management to know and do better going forward,the competition has shown there is a way.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:38:35 PM
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I once said that the share prices of KK and TOTAL will switch. It's going to happen. now total at 13.20 would you believe?
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dunkang
#20 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:31:37 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I once said that the share prices of KK and TOTAL will switch. It's going to happen. now total at 13.20 would you believe?


I also can't believe it!

Especially knowing that Total has 23% Kenyan market share (kk definitely has lesser share even NOW!) and kk has almost 8.5 times more floated shares than total (1,471,760,000 compared to 175,060,000)!

Seriously, if KK is rightfully worth 12/-, Total should be at least 50 something/-.

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