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PIMA GAS
mlennyma
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:00:43 AM
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A brilliant idea which can transform the sector and wipeout cartels if well executed..you can pima as low as 50bob...why didnt kk think of venturing into this before anybody else?
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2012
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:45:24 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
A brilliant idea which can transform the sector and wipeout cartels if well executed..you can pima as low as 50bob...why didnt kk think of venturing into this before anybody else?



Question is hoe much do you get for 50/-? Is it cheaper than paraffin not forgetting the paraffin container is almost free? If not they're wasting their time.

BBI will solve it
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Chaka
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:45:37 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
A brilliant idea which can transform the sector and wipeout cartels if well executed..you can pima as low as 50bob...why didnt kk think of venturing into this before anybody else?

Question 1.Where will the filling stations be located?
Question 2.Can 50 bob refill cook ugali,veges for a family of 4?
Crown Berger
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:48:21 AM

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Is this in line with the "kadogo" economy model that is so prevalent in the slams?
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:52:56 AM
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Good idea especially for the lower income segment of the market. Kerosene demand will probably fall. But the kadogo economy products are often expensive.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 9:58:38 AM
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Very noble idea and they should make it work for any cylinder n not just there cylinders.
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Njung'e
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:23:50 AM
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Jinga idea which is likely to fall flat on it's face.To refill 1KG you will require 300 bob.Put any other way,it's 3900 to a 13Kg cylinder.I get the same 13Kg at sub 3K.....Well.....50 bob will give you 167 grams of gas.....What would you cook with 167 grams of gas?NKT!
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mkeiy
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:28:21 AM
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The kadogo economy has worked for fast moving consumer goods,such kind of goods don't require the kind of infrastructure this "pima" gas refilling demands. Hefty investments with paltry returns. It could fly, but as i see it, it's a sheep.
dynamic
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:31:04 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Jinga idea which is likely to fall flat on it's face.To refill 1KG you will require 300 bob.Put any other way,it's 3900 to a 13Kg cylinder.I get the same 13Kg at sub 3K.....Well.....50 bob will give you 167 grams of gas.....What would you cook with 167 grams of gas?NKT!



I always use my 6kg for 2-3months, so if i use it for 2 months it means i consume daily 100g. so you know what one can do with 167g!!!!smile
mlennyma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:35:31 AM
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Some of us are talking like tycoons,but the low segment market cannot be ignored.when equity started dealing with wanjikus pple thought they were mad,,i think it will sell.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:44:10 AM
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I'm also concerned about how long that gas will last. However, its target mkt must make sense of it against use of kerosene or charcoal and if it makes sense, then they have a sale plus gas is 'safer' when properly used.
Magigi
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:44:59 AM
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dynamic wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Jinga idea which is likely to fall flat on it's face.To refill 1KG you will require 300 bob.Put any other way,it's 3900 to a 13Kg cylinder.I get the same 13Kg at sub 3K.....Well.....50 bob will give you 167 grams of gas.....What would you cook with 167 grams of gas?NKT!



I always use my 6kg for 2-3months, so if i use it for 2 months it means i consume daily 100g. so you know what one can do with 167g!!!!smile


...The day you will have a family utainua mikono!!! You can party for now because I think you only washa your gas to make 'strungi'.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:49:28 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
when equity started dealing with wanjikus pple thought they were mad,,i think it will sell.

Great idea. Si kila mtu ana pesa. And not everyone has big families.
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Njung'e
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:49:36 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Some of us are talking like tycoons,but the low segment market cannot be ignored.when equity started dealing with wanjikus pple thought they were mad,,i think it will sell.


@Lenny,
I am not a tycoon by any means but i realise buying 1Kg of this Pima whatever will cost me 300 bob whereas a kg in the market cost 253 bob or less...huh!...and don't compare this Pima with Equity.During the days,opening an account with Equity was uchi,balance in acc,uchi and somuch more free stuff...it worked.Now,with Pima,wanjiku has to buy a cylinder at 2KSad .....errrr!!....It would make sense if the cylinder was availed uchi and the we talk 300 bob.

@Dynamic,
You must be single and you don't have a cat either.Seriously,Kuchemsha maziwa ya pusi would finish 167 grams papLaughing out loudly


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Cde Monomotapa
#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:50:04 AM
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Magigi wrote:

...The day you will have a family utainua mikono!!! You can party for now because I think you only washa your gas to make 'strungi'.

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2012
#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 10:52:06 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Jinga idea which is likely to fall flat on it's face.To refill 1KG you will require 300 bob.Put any other way,it's 3900 to a 13Kg cylinder.I get the same 13Kg at sub 3K.....Well.....50 bob will give you 167 grams of gas.....What would you cook with 167 grams of gas?NKT!


And not forgetting the cost of the cylinder and the disadvantage of having only one provider.

I don't disagree in trying to provide for the low segment mkt @mlennyma but that mkt is not only very demand driven, it's also very cost driven and that's why it is very hard trying to model the cooking fat concept which just requires a nylon paper to gas which requires a cylinder plus the added margin. For me, this ain't gonna work but will make a great case study one day.

BBI will solve it
:)
The Merchant
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:24:05 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Jinga idea which is likely to fall flat on it's face.To refill 1KG you will require 300 bob.Put any other way,it's 3900 to a 13Kg cylinder.I get the same 13Kg at sub 3K.....Well.....50 bob will give you 167 grams of gas.....What would you cook with 167 grams of gas?NKT!

NBo you dont, 13kg is at 3800/-....duuuuuude!!!! nkt
Kirika
#18 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:26:10 AM
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If they only refill other cylinders and make it more available in supermarkets and petrol stations, then they will make serious cash.

I'm of the idea that gas should be like fuel, you refill as per my affordability !
The Merchant
#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:30:56 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Some of us are talking like tycoons,but the low segment market cannot be ignored.when equity started dealing with wanjikus pple thought they were mad,,i think it will sell.


@Lenny,
I am not a tycoon by any means but i realise buying 1Kg of this Pima whatever will cost me 300 bob whereas a kg in the market cost 253 bob or less...huh!...and don't compare this Pima with Equity.During the days,opening an account with Equity was uchi,balance in acc,uchi and somuch more free stuff...it worked.Now,with Pima,wanjiku has to buy a cylinder at 2KSad .....errrr!!....It would make sense if the cylinder was availed uchi and the we talk 300 bob.

@Dynamic,
You must be single and you don't have a cat either.Seriously,Kuchemsha maziwa ya pusi would finish 167 grams papLaughing out loudly



WHY do you keep quoting the wrong price for gas. It costs 3800/- for 13kg so 1kg=292.307....300/- is very fair. If you scale up the price of Blue Band small sachets itll cost more than the Big one. Niki we!!
2012
#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 11:35:55 AM
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The Merchant wrote:
NBo you dont, 13kg is at 3800/-....duuuuuude!!!! nkt


Where? Gas is going for btwn 3k and 3.5k just go and check.

BBI will solve it
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