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AIRTEL-uncertain future.
chris79
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:15:11 AM
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And it doesn't seem like cooling off any time soon. Moral of the story, never compete with an elephant in a sh*tting contest...

www.businessdailyafrica....28/-/6bek0e/-/index.html
mlennyma
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:42:49 AM
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Kencel,celtel,zain and now airtel started price wars which are now threatening its bussines.it was banking on numbers/volumes which has failed,number portability has also failed,3g internet is unknown...with interconection charges capped at 2.21 airtel is paying rivals dearly despite being in loses..rene mezza quit and has pouched some senior managers to vodacom...airtel has warned its busines is threatened.what options do they have b4 sinking?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
hisah
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:56:28 AM
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Hike tariff or sell to the highest bidder.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Jamani
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:11:46 AM
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I kept pressing on the fact that they will loose on their strategy and cheap is not necessarily good... they fired kenyans, pushed jobs to india, lowered KRA income (which from a different angle impacted the overall economy), affected quality of service and expansion on telcoms among other things.....
Today who is crying? read this extract..... “Stopping drops in mobile termination rates is hurting small businesses more since it is our callers who end up calling more on the market leader than the reverse meaning that we end up paying more,” Airtel’s chief operating officer Shivan Bhargava said in an interview
josiah33
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:23:45 AM
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Seems like their LOW PRICE-MASS TRAFFIC STRATEGY they've used in India couldn't be replicated here in Kenya.
McReggae
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:30:59 AM
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josiah33 wrote:
Seems like their LOW PRICE-MASS TRAFFIC STRATEGY they've used in India couldn't be replicated here in Kenya.


....and this was obvious from the very onset except to their management!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
QW25091985
#7 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:32:06 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Kencel,celtel,zain and now airtel started price wars which are now threatening its bussines.it was banking on numbers/volumes which has failed,number portability has also failed,3g internet is unknown...with interconection charges capped at 2.21 airtel is paying rivals dearly despite being in loses..rene mezza quit and has pouched some senior managers to vodacom...airtel has warned its busines is threatened.what options do they have b4 sinking?



3g is up and running , man !
Jamani
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:45:43 AM
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@Qw on trial basis in very few sites...hakuna pesa to buy equipment even the very cheap equipment from china.... plus shamba issues from hurli-- someone might be feeling this was a bad investment
mlennyma
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:50:35 AM
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@qw i think to start 3g,a launch would help them to advertise it,if indeed 3g is running and could not salvage the losses,then kwisha airtel..this was their last hope.
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quicksand
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:05:35 AM
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They should sell to people who know how to run telecoms, ..I am thinking MTN here. Unfortunately, their model is structured in such a way that they probably don't own any equipment, land ...generally tangible assets which they can use to negotiate a good bail-out price. They have outsourced everything. Including technical skills. All they have is a middle to high level management staff (Indian), licenses, a name and goodwill that is low in value. Potential suitors, if any, will press them hard
XSK
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:14:26 AM
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quicksand wrote:
They should sell to people who know how to run telecoms, ..I am thinking MTN here. Unfortunately, their model is structured in such a way that they probably don't own any equipment, land ...generally tangible assets which they can use to negotiate a good bail-out price. They have outsourced everything. Including technical skills. All they have is a middle to high level management staff (Indian), licenses, a name and goodwill that is low in value. Potential suitors, if any, will press them hard


@Quicksand

Are you an insider? You know too much about "our" company!!
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
McReggae
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:26:36 AM
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.....now how they have launched a new promo, 100sms for 3bob!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
quicksand
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 11:37:41 AM
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@XSK ...no. Just know people familiar with the situation
Sasha
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:31:45 PM
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This is another case study for an MBA class on how not to compete with a dominant market player! This along with SAB and Keroche!

@quicksand

This strategy by Airtel allows them to up and sell the business without too many encumbrances. It is a very good strategy for investors that do not want to be bogged down by fixed assets whenever they want to bail out. Like you say, it will be difficult for anyone to replicate this model as it has not worked for anyone who has tried it.

Some people will call it genious that they outsourced everything and will just uproot all their Indian managers and take them back to Airtel India. Look at what Merali does with his companies such that he is able to sell going concerns at whim!
quicksand
#15 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:42:50 PM
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@Sasha - True what you say, but I am of the opinion that businesses who over-rely on cost control to keep in the black cannot build a good product,service or become great. Business greats like Jamie Dimon believe you should not outsource things like IT
http://www.informationweek.com/news/47900224
The strategy of being able to pluck management right out, cash in and move base is very telling - it says these are not people interested in sinking roots, growth, well being and providing value. It is great for profiteering but leaves other parties disenchanted.
My 2 cents smile
Lucid_Iam
#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:08:35 PM
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India strategy of minute factory cannot work in Kenya with 40M (fewer if you consider potential subs) people not even Africa where its not a homogeneous market like India. Introduction of 3G will not save their business, the market is not that large outside major cities and towns This company will close shop in not so distant future if they don't sell now or change strategy.

YU will follow suit with free everything.
Aguytrying
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 01, 2012 2:33:54 PM
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The consumers who have been enjoying affordable call rates will suffer.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Gordon Gekko
#18 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 8:17:30 PM
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http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFJOE81G05Y20120217

Look at the magic Rene Mesa has done in Tz....
Stealth
#19 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:40:31 AM
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And with all the small players out of the game, what'll stop Safcom from charging 10 or even 15 ksh/min or more?
Kourage60
#20 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:08:36 AM
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This is s common problem with MNCs. When they come to Africa they think because we are all black we think the same. Kenya and Tz are neighbors but their business environments are worlds apart. India being a third world and populous cannot be lumped up together with black Africa as having similar climate.
The notion that the CEO has to be Indian with very little experience in Africa apart from the usual stereotypes (construed to be experience) is very bad.
Somebody said its very easy for the poor to adopt new technology because they have no other to compare with. This what helped Safaricom. But once adopted, its very hard to drop. Airtel should have known by now that free calls do not translate into money.
Airtel must go back to the drawing board. Its catch 22, if they raise charges to match Safcom, we'll dump their lines and go back home, Safcom.
Available options; sell to highest bidder to cut losses n go back to India.
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