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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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belatedly...Kenya Airways should be exciting this week and going forward. Dividend hunters or investors or a combination of both...who've realized the worst in this global recession is behind us are entering this undervalued counter...a demand of 271,700 against a supply of 28,100 today according to http://www.richlive.co.ke/ An unexpectedly early recovery in the tourism sector is underway.. If you were planning to board KQ sometime soon,why not now and reap some dividend while at it....when the negative hedging factors reduced you will be well placed to ride the tide.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,551 Location: nairobi
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ecstacy wrote:belatedly...Kenya Airways should be exciting this week and going forward. Dividend hunters or investors or a combination of both...who've realized the worst in this global recession is behind us are entering this undervalued counter...a demand of 271,700 against a supply of 28,100 today according to http://www.richlive.co.ke/ An unexpectedly early recovery in the tourism sector is underway.. If you were planning to board KQ sometime soon,why not now and reap some dividend while at it....when the negative hedging factors reduced you will be well placed to ride the tide. There is no time like now..
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,121 Location: Nairobi
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Dividends? According to Kenya's Company Law, a firm cannot pay dividends until its Revenue Reserves are positive. KQ has a NEGATIVE Shareholders' Equity [aka bankrupt] of 6bn. Therefore it needs to make 6bn PAT just to cover that item. Then it needs to 'recover' the Revenue Reserve Losses. KQ needs to consistently make 6-10bn for 2-3 years before it can pay a dividend. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Dividends?
According to Kenya's Company Law, a firm cannot pay dividends until its Revenue Reserves are positive. KQ has a NEGATIVE Shareholders' Equity [aka bankrupt] of 6bn. Therefore it needs to make 6bn PAT just to cover that item.
Then it needs to 'recover' the Revenue Reserve Losses. KQ needs to consistently make 6-10bn for 2-3 years before it can pay a dividend. Correct... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,551 Location: nairobi
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guys, this is an old thread brought up for nostalgic reasons only
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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obiero wrote:guys, this is an old thread brought up for nostalgic reasons only Mazingambwe central.  Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:ecstacy wrote:belatedly...Kenya Airways should be exciting this week and going forward. Dividend hunters or investors or a combination of both...who've realized the worst in this global recession is behind us are entering this undervalued counter...a demand of 271,700 against a supply of 28,100 today according to http://www.richlive.co.ke/ An unexpectedly early recovery in the tourism sector is underway.. If you were planning to board KQ sometime soon,why not now and reap some dividend while at it....when the negative hedging factors reduced you will be well placed to ride the tide. There is no time like now.. I can't even begin to imagine the hell that you are going through.... I'm a buyer at 1.50 per share! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Buying KQ, at any price, is the most ignorant thing an investor can do. KQ IS DEAD! The Kshs. 60B that they are asking for is enough to establish a new airline. Maybe call it AirKenya, Kenya Airlines etc Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Here is where I have a problem with KQ. The management seem not to know what is hailing the airline. Yet the senate seems to have some ideas - an outsider know more than the management ? Am I reading right ?.
So even if you bail KQ out, what will the management stop doing in order to stop making losses. May be time there was change of management
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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There is no Return on investment from KQ. The company needs a rescue plan it's a sinking ship. Management has no clue; KQ needs a CEO that has extensive experience in running an airline and in turning them around. The current CEO Ngunze and CFO Alex Mbugua have no such kind of experience Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,551 Location: nairobi
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guru267 wrote:obiero wrote:ecstacy wrote:belatedly...Kenya Airways should be exciting this week and going forward. Dividend hunters or investors or a combination of both...who've realized the worst in this global recession is behind us are entering this undervalued counter...a demand of 271,700 against a supply of 28,100 today according to http://www.richlive.co.ke/ An unexpectedly early recovery in the tourism sector is underway.. If you were planning to board KQ sometime soon,why not now and reap some dividend while at it....when the negative hedging factors reduced you will be well placed to ride the tide. There is no time like now.. I can't even begin to imagine the hell that you are going through.... I'm a buyer at 1.50 per share! Hehe. Sikondi. 1.50 is unlikely to ever print.. Maybe on Home Afrika, not KQ
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2006 Posts: 79
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@Obiero, you sound like my cousin drug addict. You know it's wrong and you want to stop, but you can't help yourself. the pull is just too much. If you're not in KQ, just watch from the sidelines, there are much better options without the ulcers and sleepless nights. Nobody expected the results we got, it was a shocker, this share ain't for the faint hearted or the impatient. Whatever little I hold I bequeath to my son! I have no hope of ever making a profit from this soon.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Gatheuzi wrote:obiero wrote:guys, this is an old thread brought up for nostalgic reasons only Mazingambwe central. Mzingiraombwe?  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:There is no Return on investment from KQ.
The company needs a rescue plan it's a sinking ship.
Management has no clue;
KQ needs a CEO that has extensive experience in running an airline and in turning them around.
The current CEO Ngunze and CFO Alex Mbugua have no such kind of experience  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,551 Location: nairobi
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Fomoney wrote:@Obiero, you sound like my cousin drug addict. You know it's wrong and you want to stop, but you can't help yourself. the pull is just too much. If you're not in KQ, just watch from the sidelines, there are much better options without the ulcers and sleepless nights. Nobody expected the results we got, it was a shocker, this share ain't for the faint hearted or the impatient. Whatever little I hold I bequeath to my son! I have no hope of ever making a profit from this soon. Im in this for the long term.. I worry not.. All I can note is that the pilots who tried to run down the airline via delays/cancellations now have their jobs on the line.. Fleet reduction will see them jobless and they will likely not be engaged by any other carrier coz of the go-slow background.. Heshimu kazi!
HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Fomoney wrote:@Obiero, you sound like my cousin drug addict. You know it's wrong and you want to stop, but you can't help yourself. the pull is just too much. If you're not in KQ, just watch from the sidelines, there are much better options without the ulcers and sleepless nights. Nobody expected the results we got, it was a shocker, this share ain't for the faint hearted or the impatient. Whatever little I hold I bequeath to my son! I have no hope of ever making a profit from this soon. Im in this for the long term.. I worry not.. All I can note is that the pilots who tried to run down the airline via delays/cancellations now have their jobs on the line.. Fleet reduction will see them jobless and they will likely not be engaged by any other carrier coz of the go-slow background.. Heshimu kazi! 42 first officers have already applied for jobs in other airlines... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2006 Posts: 79
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obiero wrote:Fomoney wrote:@Obiero, you sound like my cousin drug addict. You know it's wrong and you want to stop, but you can't help yourself. the pull is just too much. If you're not in KQ, just watch from the sidelines, there are much better options without the ulcers and sleepless nights. Nobody expected the results we got, it was a shocker, this share ain't for the faint hearted or the impatient. Whatever little I hold I bequeath to my son! I have no hope of ever making a profit from this soon. Im in this for the long term.. I worry not.. All I can note is that the pilots who tried to run down the airline via delays/cancellations now have their jobs on the line.. Fleet reduction will see them jobless and they will likely not be engaged by any other carrier coz of the go-slow background.. Heshimu kazi! They have to handle their wage bill, employing university graduates to be hostesses has not resulted in better customer service, but definitely a higher wage bill. Serving drinks on an airplane with a degree just makes one a glorified waiter. They demand higher salaries but service is still bad. Leading to incredulous ticket prices and they get creamed by other airlines. KQ culture needs a reboot. The mountain is steep, the road long, but it can be done but sacrifices have to be made.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Fomoney wrote:obiero wrote:Fomoney wrote:@Obiero, you sound like my cousin drug addict. You know it's wrong and you want to stop, but you can't help yourself. the pull is just too much. If you're not in KQ, just watch from the sidelines, there are much better options without the ulcers and sleepless nights. Nobody expected the results we got, it was a shocker, this share ain't for the faint hearted or the impatient. Whatever little I hold I bequeath to my son! I have no hope of ever making a profit from this soon. Im in this for the long term.. I worry not.. All I can note is that the pilots who tried to run down the airline via delays/cancellations now have their jobs on the line.. Fleet reduction will see them jobless and they will likely not be engaged by any other carrier coz of the go-slow background.. Heshimu kazi! They have to handle their wage bill, employing university graduates to be hostesses has not resulted in better customer service, but definitely a higher wage bill. Serving drinks on an airplane with a degree just makes one a glorified waiter. They demand higher salaries but service is still bad. Leading to incredulous ticket prices and they get creamed by other airlines. KQ culture needs a reboot. The mountain is steep, the road long, but it can be done but sacrifices have to be made. You cant blame KQ for that...its the country that we live in some estate was looking for an estate manager (fancy name for a caretaker) ,16 fellows applied who had MBAs you dont even know the number of degree holders who applied... possunt quia posse videntur
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