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Kenya Power would lose out due to inefficiency and corruption.
slykat
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:52:00 PM
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I have often wondered how Kenya can develop the energy distribution sector while relying on a monopoly, Kenya Powerless.

In the days of Telkom only, a phone was for the elite. A mobile phone was for the tycoons and a satellite phone was unheard of.

I submit if Kenya wants to be wired it must introduce compe to KP. And while at it,privatise and do likewise to water distribution and supply.

Otherwise, even Airports, industries and hospitals, lol, will always bow down to Kenya Power. Not very funny using candles and torches to welcome tourists as if to suggest we live on trees.

Where I am, there are numerous levels of power distribution and there is competition at every level. Switching utility companies is as easy as number portability.

We did it with telecoms and outperformed even developed countries, so what are we waiting for?

Even KP shareholders would agree, no?
KenyanLyrics
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:16:17 PM
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Yes, what are you waiting for slykat? Introduce a competitor to the market NOW. I will cheer you on, promise.
Tommy
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:31:49 PM
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competition is always nice coz it increases the level of efficiency. i fondly remember the days of reverse calls and panctual appointment since you wont reach the other person. @slykat, kindly elaborate on how its easy to switch power providers and who owns the infrastracture.
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slykat
#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:42:00 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
Yes, what are you waiting for slykat? Introduce a competitor to the market NOW. I will cheer you on, promise.


I wish I could...this would be for highly capitalized companies or the Chinese, as u know cheeky. There is a huge unserviced mkt and the serviced one is thoroughly disaffected.

But there would first be need for a new policy and regulatory framework to divide licenses geographically and/or nationally with supply in mind.

Though it is not on the cards yet, consumers will eventually demand it and that is when KP will be exposed as the inefficient monopoly it is.
dunkang
#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:49:13 PM
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Strictly speeaking, there is monopoly here! Buy a generator and generate your own power in your house!
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:01:23 PM
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Becase of the high installation cost of the power sector it is very hard to get a competitor because KPLC (note the acronym) has some un due advantage.
We are doing so first by separating the transmission to KENATCO and with this a competitor who comes in now fights for the distribution. We will be there sooner than you think, it has started with the rebranding.
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mlennyma
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:52:12 AM
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Not in the near future,learn to stay with kenya power for the next 30yrs.
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slykat
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:54:19 AM
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Tommy wrote:
competition is always nice coz it increases the level of efficiency. i fondly remember the days of reverse calls and panctual appointment since you wont reach the other person. @slykat, kindly elaborate on how its easy to switch power providers and who owns the infrastracture.

am away from my comp but basically the customer selects from a nr of suppliers some of whom r resellers.they have different tariffs.u switch online but in reality nothing changes. Only that ur tariff and ur new utility co is anr one. U can search 'electricity distribution' on wiki
slykat
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:02:59 PM
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New n old infrastracture are open to lease by other suppliers..
slykat
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:24:50 PM
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Eg. If Kenya were liberalized in the same way, I ltd cud win the tender to buy in bulk all the elec eg from mumias..lease infrastracture from kp and sell to users at tariffs lower than kp's.I cud manage the end user myself or subcontract a utility co. My customers could switch to kp or others charging less or more ...the infrastructure remains intact
Kenyan Oracle
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:02:38 PM
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slykat wrote:
Otherwise, even Airports, industries and hospitals, lol, will always bow down to Kenya Power. Not very funny using candles and torches to welcome tourists as if to suggest we live on trees.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Reminds me one time while in India, an Indian asked, "I hear you people in Africa live on trees?"
I replied tongue in cheek, "Yeah vee do, Indian High Commission tallest tree."
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2012
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:12:49 PM
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Small problem, all they need to do is replace the MD with an MJ, King James or a Mugo Kibati like and the 'assumed' confidence and share price will be northward bound.

BBI will solve it
:)
Barrywhite
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:20:47 PM
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At corporate level, it will take a while before competition comes in. At individual level though, you can reduce your reliance to KP (or KPLC) to the minimum possible. Install a green energy solution at home (solar, or wind or bio); know a colleague who has done that and only switches on KPLC one day a week! My project for 2012! That way you become independent of Kenya Power unless the airport is affected and you were flying in/out :)
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KenyanLyrics
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:38:00 PM
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@Slykat so you came here just to shout at the top of your voice and shake your fists? Bure kabisa! We all know how this will end.
2012
#15 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 10:22:10 AM
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Barrywhite wrote:
Install a green energy solution at home (solar, or wind or bio); know a colleague who has done that and only switches on KPLC one day a week! My project for 2012!


I'm also very interested and I can't stand the blackouts. Please if you find out who installs and how much let us know.

BBI will solve it
:)
bomboclat
#16 Posted : Saturday, July 23, 2011 4:10:02 AM
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Give me 1000 acre farm with lots of cows, I gurantee you I will give Kenya Power lots of headaches and migranes. Or better yet, give me the whole of Central Province and I will distribute that electricity for free to each household.
slykat
#17 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 2:40:10 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
@Slykat so you came here just to shout at the top of your voice and shake your fists? Bure kabisa! We all know how this will end.


Yes we all know how this ends up...

In massive power rationing and affected industrial production.
slykat
#18 Posted : Saturday, July 07, 2012 3:37:48 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
@Slykat so you came here just to shout at the top of your voice and shake your fists? Bure kabisa! We all know how this will end.


Most of u above laughed off sarcastically the notion, let alone the possibility, that one day this dark monopoly would end.

One year later

http://standardmedia.co....-Power-monopoly-at-risk

http://www.standardmedia...mp;articleID=2000056144

Yaaaaay! The last obstacle to economic revolution in Kenya to be removed.

Applause Applause Applause Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

bomboclat wrote:
Give me 1000 acre farm with lots of cows, I gurantee you I will give Kenya Power lots of headaches and migranes. Or better yet, give me the whole of Central Province and I will distribute that electricity for free to each household.


Now go for Central Kenya.
youcan'tstopusnow
#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:50:20 AM
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The beginning of its end?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Ericsson
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:55:34 AM
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This is just somebody's opinion.Kenya Power ain't going anywhere.
Why did the gava increase its shareholding to above 50% for the company in Dec 2010.
It will still be there even in 2050.
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