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Ric dees
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:45:43 PM
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(Your Views Bwana Young)

One of my Naijja colleagues was absoulete livid when this was aired sometime back bout Lagos. She says it was a misrepresntation of what lagos is/was about, i can see where she was coming from however i feel she was not seeing the larger picture or what the documentary was trying to achieve.

Can i have your thoughts Mr Young!!

www.bbc.co.uk/.../Welcome_to_Lagos_Episode_1/

PS: If this does not work google "Welcome To Lagos"

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young
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:14:12 PM
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@Ric dees

The documentary should have been captioned "Welcome to the Slums Of Lagos " as the crew only visited the slums . It is not a balanced view of Lagos.

Is just like visiting Kagangware (not sure of the spellings) or down town or Kibera and title the documentary "welcome to Nairobi"


Makoko and other settlements mentioned are the slums, there are middle income areas like Surulere, Gbagada, Ketu, Palmgrove, Maryland etc and high brow areas like Victoria Island, Ikoyi, Lekki Peninsular etc that the authors did not mention.

The story of the slum dweller are absolutely correct but the given names of the people interviwed are not typical Nigerian local or English names, I reckons they hid they names while exposing their identities by being allowed to be photographed.

The biggest slum called Ajegunle located toward the port City of Apapa was never visited.

On the whole it is interesting and real expecially the Makoko story. What I do not fully agree is the aspect of refuse dump. Scavanger are there most of the day but they do not live there , they return to other slums in the evening and resume "work" the next morning. But again scavengers can be found in even UK dump sites .

But Lagos is the popular and the only story about Nigeria. With a population of 16 Million stuck in a small land mass the story of Lagos is not unexpected.

People always fail to mention the new capital city Abuja which was the city planned from scratch with mordern amenities. The best part of Nairobi is nothing to compare to Abuja. It is the best kept secret of Nigeria. But you will rarely hear of the name wheras it has been the capital of Nigeria since 1992!!! That was when Lagos ceased to be the Federal capital.

Send my response to your Nigerian friend. To the best of my knowledge my response is without bias or sentiment.
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muganda
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:06:29 PM
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@Ric dees, took me some google to find http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8llgvgHxHE

@young well said... Title of the episode denotes ulterior motive or cheap promotion for that matter. I was surprised only after Hurricane Katrina was I introduced to despondency in New Orleans - never knew it existed before.

So the series would have been much more informative if it had better balance - a view of slums all over the world from Mumbai to Lagos to their origin in Victorian Britain.
Ric dees
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 14, 2010 6:41:15 PM
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@Young/Muganda

Yes i agree there is a different side of Lagos which we did not see, however this was the gist of the documentary (higlighting the slums) of Lagos. I have a question Messrs Young/Muganda, can we call Kenya Safari country (I have seen that advert somwhere) by and large this is true, but this may not be entirely true to the farmers of Kericho, we can also be Tea country or don't you see Kenya as an important transport hub in the region!! when all of this is true,we tend to associate with the sectors most relevant to us at the moment. Kenya has the largest slum in the region: kibera, which happens to be a part of Nairobi, so is that Nairobi well i guess yes!!

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Surealligator
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:45:29 AM
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Ric dees wrote:

Kenya has the largest slum in the region: kibera, which happens to be a part of Nairobi, so is that Nairobi well i guess yes!!


@Ric dees

It was the largest slum until this year when census figures let the cat out of the bag. That Kibera has only 170,000 inhabitants. Not the one million people the media has hyped for decades.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/13ga38xz/-/index.html

Read this on the net: the population in kibera is 1.345 million people. this is the right answer belive me its right yeah enjoy your studies. =p


Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/...in_kibera#ixzz18AEi1G3W
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young
#6 Posted : Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:34:49 PM
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@Bwana Ric Dees & other friends,

The common mistake most people make is the illusion that Nigeria is all about Lagos.
Lagos is only a commercial coastal city like Mombassa. It was the capital of Nigeria up to 1992, but it it has ceased to be the federal capital.
Lagos is only a capital of one state out of 36 states A state is similar to a region in Kenya.

In that case Abuja which is the capital city is the first city or can I say the most important City in Nigeria. How many of you know about Abuja as the capital of Nigeria since 1992. ? Everybody is just talking about Lagos
out of ignorance.

For comparison reasons you can compare Abuja to Nairobi as you are comparing two federal capitals back to back. But you CANNOT compare Nairobi with Lagos as you will be comparing a federal capital (Nairobi), with a regional headquarters (Lagos).You can only compsre Lagos to Mombassa.
The fact remains what most of us write about Nigeria and Lagos is just hearsay, how many of you have visited Lagos or Abuja or Nigeria ?

I have visited Nairobi six times so I can comfortably write about Nairobi. I have visited Kampala once so I can say something about Kampala or Uganda
,

It is better to talk about where you have visited not hearsay.

To enlighten you a little find attached info about Abuja the capital of Nigeria, one of the best planned cities in Africa.

www.aboutabuja.com

Let me restate that Abuja is nothing to compare with Nairobi because Abuja is a planned city that was built from scratch from a virgin land.
Abuja remains one of the best kept secrets in
Africa
.

Lagos has a populatioon of 16 million people while abuja is just above 1 million. Fellow Africans magnify Lagos and downplay or are ignorant of the beautiful city of Abuja, the capital of federal republic of Nigeria.
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kyt
#7 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 7:50:13 AM
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Young is a nigerian, better belive him or shut up.
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K22
#8 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 2:31:30 PM
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You are right Mr. Young. I have had a chance to visit both Abuja & Lagos. these 2 are worlds apart, Abuja is beautiful, serene and organised. Totally different from the chaos that is Lagos.

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Sigiriri
#9 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 3:26:32 PM
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What I can say is that Lagos deserves what the documentary highlights because Lagos is truly a mess!!!

But Abuja, now that is a well planned city. I hate Nairobi, but would not mind living huko Abuja - at least when I visited, everything was new and good.

For Kenya will soon find ourselves with a lagos in the name of Nairobi. A few nice places like vic island of lagos - kina runda, karens of nai, but everything else utter crap!

So @Young, I hope u guys keep Abuja clean and stick with the plan - and revise it as need arise - and fly that flag really high! The only oddity I noted was having the HQ of ports at Abuja - shaped like a ship...not cool.
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#10 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 4:26:27 PM
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@sigiriri, welcome back!smile
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