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RAO strategy as stateman
thuks
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:00:52 PM
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And i like it because he is now a proper 'Co Principal' and MK is subordinate
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kadonye
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:19:33 PM
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thuks wrote:

And i like it because he is now a proper 'Co Principal' and MK is subordinate

how??
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
thuks
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:42:33 PM
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Started of by giving up the parliamentary system in Naivasha and now by putting himself 'above' the competition with KM for the Chaimanship of a house committee. He is therefore, more accomodating than Kibs.
My definition as a statesman.
He can then concentrate on the bigger picture. I bet the next step for him will be to let Kibera Goby 2012
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bepari
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:13:39 AM
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mandela,lincoln and nyerere are statesmen.but calling RAO a statesman,is the oxymoron of the week forget the strategy.his ambition is to be Fabregas when he grows up.
'hata ikirudiwa nitapiga NO'
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
thuks
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:01:54 AM
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If he's not, then we have no statesman/woman in Kenya. Anybody commanding the type of following he has and is able to accomodate other opposing political views like he has in the last few months, then he is. Just imagine if he did not change, do you think peace would have returned in Feb 08 and the referendum peaceful as it was?
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kadonye
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 8:59:30 AM
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thuks wrote:
Started of by giving up the parliamentary system in Naivasha

You think he did so for his love of Kenya?We know what opinion polls told us about the most preferred politician 4 presidency!Who nids a parliamentary system anyway?It's a mockery of democracy.Apart from Jomo, Raila Odinga is the most overrated politician in Kenyan history.
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
bepari
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:34:24 AM
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ati he accomodates other oppossing political views?he only does so when he's cornered.flashback 1994 ford kenya elections wamalwa beat him as party chair and he left for NDP,me thinks you cant be a good leader unless you are gracious enough to be led by others.On commanding a huge following,even Hitler had even greater following and was democratically elected.
'hata ikirudiwa nitapiga NO'.
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
nostoppingthis
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:38:07 AM
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bepari wrote:
ati he accomodates other oppossing political views?he only does so when he's cornered.flashback 1994 ford kenya elections wamalwa beat him as party chair and he left for NDP,me thinks you cant be a good leader unless you are gracious enough to be led by others.On commanding a huge following,even Hitler had even greater following and was democratically elected.
'hata ikirudiwa nitapiga NO'.


You are one bitter individual
Magigi
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:38:41 AM
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...RAO is applying the 48 laws of power as he has his mind set for the presidency
....LAW 1 - Never outshine your master.
He has realised that he is stealing the show. Backing down abit is just a control check!!!
TAZ
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:40:34 AM
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thuks wrote:
Just imagine if he did not change, do you think peace would have returned in Feb 08 and the referendum peaceful as it was?


So you think there was peace because of Raila?Not talking

He is no statesman he's just playing 2012 politics....Kibaki will not be a threat so why fight him. I would really respect him as a politician if he retires with MK.
McReggae
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:47:45 AM
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TAZ wrote:
thuks wrote:
Just imagine if he did not change, do you think peace would have returned in Feb 08 and the referendum peaceful as it was?


So you think there was peace because of Raila?Not talking

He is no statesman he's just playing 2012 politics....Kibaki will not be a threat so why fight him. I would really respect him as a politician if he retires with MK.


Eti retire with MK.....in Africa????
Even Mandela though old had to be president before he retired!!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
nostoppingthis
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:48:21 AM
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TAZ wrote:
thuks wrote:
Just imagine if he did not change, do you think peace would have returned in Feb 08 and the referendum peaceful as it was?


So you think there was peace because of Raila?Not talking

He is no statesman he's just playing 2012 politics....Kibaki will not be a threat so why fight him. I would really respect him as a politician if he retires with MK.


He doesn't need your respect, he's heading straight for presidency.

PEV broke out! am I to give MK respect if he stepped aside for a controversial election? c'mon!!!!
TAZ
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:45:11 AM
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These bastards don't care about the new Constitution...MK is all concerned about his legacy while the rest have their eyes fixed on 2012. Ruto is probably the happiest politician post-referendum
poundfoolish
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:19:20 AM
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There's never any need of facing RAO in his matches..
you simply let him play with little resistance (thats when he gets conceited and fumbles...)

the only way to deal with the guy is to wait for him at the final end... you either shift the goal post, flatly refuse the goal, or shift the finish line further(incase of a race) every time he gets to the end...

this is a classical example of playing to the galary and the audience will surely join in..to the disappointment of rivals.
Njung'e
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:27:57 AM
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bepari wrote:
.his ambition is to be Fabregas when he grows up.
.......Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly ...hate speechLaughing out loudly
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
bepari
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:30:17 PM
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@nostopingthis-i stated facts disaprove me on this.when you are a public figure thats what you are;thieves,sick,mad and even bitter people like me will comment on you.
@njunge-you say hate speech,i say free speech.
'hata ikirudiwa nitapiga NO'.
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
Ngalaka
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 7:40:38 PM
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Thios only happens in Kenya!!!

You create a mess unnecessarily, - somewhere down the line, after so much damage has been done, you purport to clean it up/retract - and voila you are a Statesman!

Ok I get it!

Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
McReggae
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:54:06 PM
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same cast, different movie.....,
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
murenj
#19 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 5:25:37 AM
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Rao is changing the rules of the game. he seems to have learnt from his past mistakes and is always innovative, a step a head of the competition. Arap Ruto is Rao's student, using old notes of Rao. well, Kenya needs crafty leaders like Rao to prevent the museveni's of east africa from grabbing our land again.
thuks
#20 Posted : Friday, August 13, 2010 8:52:32 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:


You create a mess unnecessarily,

Ok I get it!



RAO never created the mess, it was kina arap Ruto
He is genuine as of now. At least his ambition and the interest of kenyans are on the same plane
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