To a HIV negative baby

the third kid?

I know his first born..huz in campus..the boy is a special type of a genious

Congratulations Asunta

I agree.
There's something I found disqueting about her having Joshua because she put her interests first, (like in this case)and not the baby's.
We are happy and glad for her and esp. the baby that its -ve and twas a safe delivery, but would our applause have been similarly loud if the kid was born +ve and remained so - condemned to a lifetime of drugs for the rest of its life - merely coz its mother wanted to have it while she could have exercised her maternal instinct differently by adopting?
She sends mixed signals to PLWAs.

This lady really liked pine tree; see how she get children.
How old is the first born now that they are 3 in total?
And did she get them with one father?
And how was she mounted?
Is the huzzy also +ve?
And are they living together as huzzy and wifey?
Or ni mambo ya ma pine trees tu?

Its her life...we have no right to interfear...she has broken no laws,done no sin...let us learn to love and not condemn for nothing good can come from hate.

People seem to be sure when they make comments about Asunta's right or not to have a child while she is HIV positive. We have taken her HIV status as a given in that we assume we know what it means to be HIV positive.

If you have the patience and curiosity you can read the following:

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/rrbdowe.htm

Still interested? Read on:

http://www.virusmyth.com.../data2/introduction.htm


Then ask yourself: What do we really know for sure???

HIV is no longer a death sentence. We should not stigmatize people living with HIV. Let them live a life as close to normal as they possibly can. Most of us 'healthy' Kenyans can get hit by a bus - metaphorically of course - today and leave our dependants behind.

Asunta tested HIV+ approximately 20 years ago. How many Kenyans have died during that period? How many of them had kids? And why do we imagine Asunta and any other person living with HIV has a lesser right to get a kid? Asunta probably has a better long term plan [including succession] for her kids than the rest of us who imagine we will live forever.

NB: 'Healthy' is in quotes because most of the people shouting from the rooftops don't even know their status.

@slykat one of the marks of intelligence is the willingness to consider that issues can be viewed from multiple points. The often is no ABSOLUTE right. What you consider right is most often based on your set of values which are acquired though socialisation, religion etc.

As a person I strongly believe that PLWHAs have all the rights that the rest of us do. What I urge is that 'making babies' decisions be made after weighing all the circumstances. Just because we can procreate does not mean we all should. It is for the same reason I would ask a gay couple to probably not adopt. Put the interests of the child first.

Well said... my take though is that there is a danger that we may at times see our selves as the intelligent species.. so much so that we forget that we are animals in biological terms and with instincts, urges and desires... but most importantly...carrying out a biological function may not always be a choice! Obviously you are aware of unwanted pregnancies, just as you are aware of the existence of the abortion dilemma... very personal at that... my philosopher friend.... we are human, but then again Bentham was not a naturalist, if it be true that you are a Benthamer.

[quote=As a person I strongly believe that PLWHAs have all the rights that the rest of us do. What I urge is that 'making babies' decisions be made after weighing all the circumstances. Just because we can procreate does not mean we all should. It is for the same reason I would ask a gay couple to probably not adopt. Put the interests of the child first[/quote]

Our point of departure; as a person I believe everyone has the right not to think or even the right to make an unwise or stupid decision..that is why there are consequences. But then again your statement that people should hold divergent views freely flies in the face of your prescription of what views PLWHAs should hold on getting babies... u contradict yourself.