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KCB Rights Issue Subscription Rate
PKoli
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:59:44 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
The share pricd is goin down b'coz there's a correction on the price . Period.


That was not a correction but a reaction. Demand at anything over 18.5 for KCB will be huge and so we expect it to move up
qw25041985
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:31:55 PM
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If its a reaction coz of the rights it shld b goin up coz the rights were a 'success' . Its a correction. And NEVER argue w/ the market. As a matter of fact i expectd the correction.
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PKoli
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:44:02 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
If its a reaction coz of the rights it shld b goin up coz the rights were a 'success' . Its a correction. And NEVER argue w/ the market. As a matter of fact i expectd the correction.


Thanks for your observation. Let us wait to see performance after 19th. I still expect an upsurge for this lion
youcan'tstopusnow
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:44:57 PM
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deal, share back to 18.75. Even with the additional shares, it is unlikely to go below 17. People said the same thing about Equity ''3.7 billion shares is HUGE. All that supply. I will definitely pick up some at below 10''. Well, we all know what happened next. Equity has returned 100% since. Those who were making those statements are today ''hoping'' to pick up some Equity at below 23 bob during the ''correction''. It's all just a vicious cycle of missed opportunities
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Insurgent
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:59:19 PM
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When and where are they going to announce the subscription rate? Or will they send a copy to NSE and the press?


"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.

PKoli
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:02:15 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
deal, share back to 18.75. Even with the additional shares, it is unlikely to go below 17. People said the same thing about Equity ''3.7 billion shares is HUGE. All that supply. I will definitely pick up some at below 10''. Well, we all know what happened next. Equity has returned 100% since. Those who were making those statements are today ''hoping'' to pick up some Equity at below 23 bob during the ''correction''. It's all just a vicious cycle of missed opportunities


That is a fact. I do not regret picking up additional rights. This lion will roar and some of patient enough will be holding the stock at 30 next year with 1 bob dividend. I have a target of 100,000 KCB and now halfway
Insurgent
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:06:04 PM
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Insurgent
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:20:51 PM
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The rights were 82.56% subscribed. Let the scrabble for the lion begin. If you had asked for additional rights, you will receive all you requested. What are the consequences?


"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.

youcan'tstopusnow
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:36:30 PM
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The subscription rate was 82.56% www.nation.co.ke/busines.../1006/974362/-/gdg0f2/-/
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Scubidu
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:38:37 PM
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Here are some interesting facts (not exactly related to share trade or pricing unfortunately) that have come to fruition as a result of KCB raising 12.45 billion in equity.

KCB is the largest bank by capitalization, assets, and deposits.
KCB now has 30 billion in cash reserves (considering the reserve ratio is 4.5%)
KCB now has 30 billion in capital (can support at least 3 years of growth)
KCB can (theoretically) expand loans by 70% or 100 billion, no sweat.
KCB can (theoretically) expand deposits by 50% or 100 billion, no sweat.

This is a rare privilege not many bankers enjoy, but will the management mess it up with inefficiencies and lack of innovation?
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muganda
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:39:50 PM
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Wolololo, perhaps a lesson on how to treat the Wazua madhouse in future! Me I was running, throwing stones from the front line, then selling my shares and shaking the dust off my feet.

My reasons stand but good stuff KCB, for ignoring the criticism and speaking to the market at large. Makes me wonder whether our posts here can really really affect the outcome in the normal market?


StatMeister
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:19:16 PM
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Just wondering - what's the meaning of the public not being interested in KCB at 17? does it mean they want to buy it at 23?

Just wondering ? ? ?

. . . and i just checked the charts for the period after 2008 rights - the highest the stock ever did was 24 - the rights were 25 bob . . .
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youcan'tstopusnow
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:16:57 PM
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stat, that period after the rights was a brutal bear run. Few stocks gained
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qw25041985
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:35:01 PM
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2008 .?That was during the recession
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mkonomtupu
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:47:17 PM
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I hope KCB management can surprise its patient shareholders. I have a lot at stake here having gone massive at the rights issue plus planning to average down in case the price tumbles. If they can start by lowering base rate and shock the mortgage market that would be great.
guru267
#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:37:17 PM
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underweight
#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:52:20 PM
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Sad Hope you got well what Mr Muthoka Said in the statement... Am afraid they may be forced to retain the earnings. Hope you get what I mean by that...NO DIVIDEND.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#38 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:00:58 PM
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underweight, is there still signficant tension in Darfur? On KCB, seems like investors may have to contend with capital gains only going by the chairman's statement
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underweight
#39 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:24:40 PM
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Shame on you @ Youcan'tstopusnow There is NO significant tension although the rebel group leader never seem to agree on anything.....ever changing goal posts.... On KCB whoever is in for dividend think twice. Be contended with capital gain!!
"A bad decision made now is beta that a good one made later!!"
guru267
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:28:26 PM
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underweight wrote:
Sad Hope you got well what Mr Muthoka Said in the statement... Am afraid they may be forced to retain the earnings. Hope you get what I mean by that...NO DIVIDEND.

@underweight i only wish you knew How wrong you are....

KCB is projecting a 6billion full year PAT which they will attain basing on half year results...

If they pay a 1bob dividend that will leave 2.9billion in retained earnings which is more than the left over from the rights
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