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NSE SHARES PERFORMANCE: THREE YEAR FORECAST WITH 2012 IN MIND
Wa_ithaka
#101 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 12:04:00 PM
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VVs- the key word payment when scheduled. Note this applies to any type of loan. For example, for the HFCK makao product only, interest charge only kicks in once you drawadown on it.
This in effect means that you can go for 12 months without making any repayments and this won't make an npl!
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Cicero
#102 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 6:11:44 AM
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Can banks then make any money from lending to farmers if the money is soo much dependent on the weather, unless of course they lend them at above 30% interest to compensate for the many NPL which would eventually result? I think if i were a big bank i would leave small banks and companies like Mumias sugar to lend to farmers ... at least they have a lot of vested interests!
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#103 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:28:00 PM
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@cicero - Due to the problems with recoveries, many firms have exited the 'lending' or 'credit' business for farmers...

I agree that small(er) banks are better equipped to handle farmers BUT Equity is a big player & remains so... I am sure Co-op Bank has a huge stake in the farmers business but through the Saccos.

When Co-op was going public the ad had this prosperous mzee who was a farmer...
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Cicero
#104 Posted : Friday, March 12, 2010 6:06:33 PM
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It looks like everything is on the up and up. If we pass the draft (after MPs realise squabbling does not help anyone and harms the economy) then shares will go further up towards 2012. Probably 2010 and 2011 are bull years. The NSE 20 may even hit it earlier record above 6,000 points before december this year unless we kill the draft constitution. But 2012 will be a tricky year to be at the NSE especially if the current political heat\alliances persist.

Do wazurians have an opinion on which stock is yet to take off BUT might just be a joy ride in the next two years? Is that stock Mumias Sugar?Think
Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
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#105 Posted : Friday, March 12, 2010 6:57:21 PM
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Most firms will benefit from the better economy... Some more than others. The rains should benefit Coop & Equity which lend to farmers...

They can write back the provisions & increased lending as well...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cicero
#106 Posted : Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:27:23 AM
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I honestly dont understand what's happening with the "old" stocks like Equity and KCB. Why are they being left behind even by strugglers of old?And i expected Mumias sugar to be at 15 by now, bearing in mind that they announced good half year profits and the horizon looks rosy. Whats cutting? It's a little hard to work the math ...
Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
guru267
#107 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 10:36:37 AM
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@cicero i think the likes of equity and KCB are being left behind in the current market rally because there are better bargains out there...
i think mumias half year results were already priced in the share price...
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Cicero
#108 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 4:04:49 AM
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I dont know about KCB because i havent recently read about their results BUT i thought wazurians had already agreed that if Mumias were to keep the trend of earnings the least they can report in terms of earnings at the end of the year is 1.60 per share leaving the PE below 8 ... meaning the share sould be worth at least 15 bob ... is 10 bob a nice place for the share to wait ... i thought 13 bob would be where the share would balance waiting for end of year results ... but obviously i was wrong!
Don't gamble; take all your savings and buy some good stock and hold it till it goes up, then sell it. If it don't go up, don't buy it...
guru267
#109 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:06:32 AM
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@cicero full year results for mumias will come out at least 7months from now... the market cannot start pricing them in now... i think only after May is when the share price will start its rise...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ecstacy
#110 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:55:32 AM
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Dynamics set to favour MSC, KQ, SCOM, K-Re, HFCK and EB later in the year.
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#111 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:04:10 AM
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@ecstacy you couldnt be more right on those picks... EB's half year results will shoot through the roof then we'll see real price movement in the counter...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
2012
#112 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:05:00 AM
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ecstacy wrote:
Dynamics set to favour MSC, KQ, SCOM, K-Re, HFCK and EB later in the year.


Please expound further because I was going to offload some SCOM today and you're making me rethink that decision.

BBI will solve it
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guru267
#113 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:11:10 AM
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@2012
i think safcom will rise soon due to speculation about results but i also think there are many better oppurtunities in the market at the moment...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
2012
#114 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:25:53 AM
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guru267 wrote:
@2012
i think safcom will rise soon due to speculation about results but i also think there are many better oppurtunities in the market at the moment...


I believe so too. I have 120k SCOM that I acquired at 5/- during the IPO and I wanted to cut them them by half at 5.5-5.6 because realistically I'm not seeing it going up by much and it's almost unimaginable that the dividend will go anything beyond 15cts (6B).

@guru, what do you think? Would you sell?

BBI will solve it
:)
guru267
#115 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:41:23 AM
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@2012 IF it were me, i would sell about 60k of those shares and find something else that would make me some real money before the current oppurtunites fly away...

the other half i would keep until the announcement because its bound to cause a stir on this stock....

by the way i have already taken this action on my safcom shares..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ecstacy
#116 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:42:18 AM
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@2012, impact of the ever growing data business and anticipation for the beginning of share consolidation initiatives...
2012
#117 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:54:28 AM
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guru267 wrote:
@2012 IF it were me, i would sell about 60k of those shares and find something else that would make me some real money before the current oppurtunites fly away...

the other half i would keep until the announcement because its bound to cause a stir on this stock....

by the way i have already taken this action on my safcom shares..


Thanks. I'm gonna do just that.

BBI will solve it
:)
qw25041985
#118 Posted : Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:14:07 AM
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I tip mumias as the stock to watch come 2012 . I feel growth stocks will lead the way. ... ..
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VituVingiSana
#119 Posted : Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:40:53 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
I tip mumias as the stock to watch come 2012 . I feel growth stocks will lead the way. ... ..
Why 2012??? Aren't you the jamaa who got all antsy if you owned a stock for more than 5 days???
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ProverB
#120 Posted : Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:46:46 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
I tip mumias as the stock to watch come 2012 . I feel growth stocks will lead the way. ... ..
Why 2012??? Aren't you the jamaa who got all antsy if you owned a stock for more than 5 days???

Eh?? Dude is gradually mutating into a longtermer!!! smile smile Laughing out loudly
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