@Pastor M
As much as we should be worried about erosion of morals (which is unfortunately on the rise and would have continued with or without the katiba process), most of us observe that the church went to far. To an extent of twisting facts and fabricating lies to influence the congregation to vote NO. I agree the church has a moral obligation and every right to stand its position and teach its people. What I fully disagree with, is the extent to which part of the church intruded and tried to influence individuals decision making. Thats brainwashing!
The church failed us big time here by behaving like politicians who sometimes take advantage of iliterate and semi-iliterate folks in the country. Decision making should have been left to individuals after teaching them the TRUTH and making sure that they understood.
I am convinced like many have said here that there are so many true christians who voted YES.
@ All -My take; this victory is a big sign of improvement in literacy in Kenya which is fundamental in development because of its influence in politics and governance. Majority of people read,understood the document and made THEIR OWN DECISION and I hope this is the new trend in especially in choosing our leaders.
@ Religious leaders – we need you, we need the church but you have no right over our freedom in decision making and not at the expense of our freedom of choice.Period!!!!

The church should now organize a major Uhuru Park rally to thank God for a peacefull referendum and reconcille Kenyans so that we can all celebrate and participate in the Rebirth of a new country.

I went against the counsel of my good bishop Njue by voting YES - its my hope and believe that come sunday he will preach love to all.

@ Seeders

Dont get me wrong; by suggesting that the church has a right to stand its position, I mean the church had a right to criticize the draft and highlight the issues that were of concern to them and warn the congregation on such issues.
However in my opinion, the church had no right to take people to the barrot box and suggest that they vote no. The church shouldn’t have lied to its people about the constitution in a bid to influence their choice. Thats what I mean.The church should have separated itself from politicians.
It all depends on how you want to look at it and what you want to see.

...We know the clergy was right on issues of Islam, Kadhi courts, clause on foreign laws and abortion!!! The issues on land was just political...

@extrablessed

Na si sasa unatuchanganyisha? Was Islam ever a contentious issue?

Let me ask a very humble question. The OLD constitution (or is it still current?) states clearly that abortion is ILLEGAL. We all know that there are thousands of women dying due to procurement of abortion every year in this country. What has the church done so far to address this problem? Is it just to have it put on constitution? why havent we heard any person cry out to have laws implemented to curb this vice that has entrenched in our daughters' lives for so long? Ok. we can put it in the constitution as it was earlier, but what did the church do to compel the law makers or the government to ensure that this is followed. And what did it intend to do differently this time?

Let it be known to everyone that i do not support abortion whatsoever.

As a nation, we should thank the Church for highlighting issues in the draft. If the Church had remained silent, we would be having an almost free-for-all-permissive constitution.

The fact that the 'YES' carried the day does not mean that God approved the draft or rejected the clergy! Even if 'NO' won, it won't have meant that God had approved the draft constitution.

What it means is that the choice of the majority carried the day. As prophet Samuel told the Israelists, their choice had consequences.

For information, the Church was not entirely rejecting the draft, but asking the contentious issues be resolved before referendum. The issues can still be resolved after the referendum if their is political will. So no one lost!

boy or boy....
@Seeder
'question1-in other words, they should tell you why they vehemently oppose the draft but end by suggesting you vote yes? not sure how 'literate' that is...'
[No! Didn't even get close to suggesting that! Don't know where you're reading that.[/i]

question2-when it comes to interpreting the constitution, is every position either absolute truth or absolute lie?
You and I know that this is not the case or? Did I seuggest that? Fill me in pls......

question3-and speaking of literacy, you mean there are people who thought the church was going with them to the ballot box? i thought the fact that voting would be secret ballot was common knowledge (read 'common sense')?
[i] Come of it man! Literacy and the church, I don't think I mixed that up or? When the church tells people to reject the draft because it disagrees with a few issues in it,to me thats trying to influence people's decision making in short taking people to the barrot box, isn't it to you?

Kindly lets not say that church interpreted the laws wrongly (ofcourse there were some individuals who were extreme in both Yes and NO like I had someone telling youths that Police will be asking for their permission to arrest them if they pass the Katiba but the church was very sincere )but lets us wait and see,Lets wait and see how things will happen in the ground lets see how abortions will be carried out will it safe mothers or will there be unjust killings of the unborn,lets wait and see whether two men will not appear at AG's office asking for marriage cert and if not they go to court and maybe win,lets wait and see how the Kadhi courts will affect you as a christian,will it drag sheria laws into our country,let wait and see whether international treaties ratified by Kenya becomes part of law of Kenya.Maybe the Church was wrong maybe it was right but time will tell as already kenyans have decided...I will personally oppose any amendiment of the New katiba.

Can any one church basher here give us the LIES the church told versus the TRUTH based on quotations from the document?Why are you taking us back to the campaign period?

Despite voting YES, i think the church had serious issues with the draft and they should not be castigated for their stand.

I will be ready to support church leaders collecting signatures for any amendment that makes sense(kadhi courts for instance is not an issue to me)

@sky5 I also hope so...I hope the church and her lawyers were lying.....I pray my great grandchildrean (if they will not be aborted)will not accuse me....but time will tell...Lets pray and Build our nation Its my only country where my family lives and my whole clan lives...Its my beloved nation Kenya.