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importing a toyoya allion
shalishali
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:38:02 PM
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groupielove
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:01:32 PM
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I also have a big craving for Allion. Anybody who has one? Please let me know more about it in terms of comfort, reliability and response
mondisto
#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:59:56 AM
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@Groupielove

Allion is a superb car. Handles really well and the same time economical. Has a youthful sporty look and feel.

If your a serious buyer get in touch with me @0721381516.

I have one on sale.
eddyz
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:46:48 PM
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@groupielove

for the Allion get the 1800cc,has more bang (performance)for almost same economy as the 1500cc (difference in decimal,the 1500cc allion while still a stable car has more weight to carry hence performs better in the lighter NZE
mondisto
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:14:44 PM
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@Eddyz

What informs you that A18 fuel economy is more less the same as that of A15?? Please elaborate.
tuvok
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:53:30 PM
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while awaiting Eddyz...


I've never driven an Allion (or Premio) only their predecessors but online:

A15 (G Front wheel drive) - 6.1 L/100km - about 16.393 km/l -> performance 109 bhp (141 Nm Torque)

A18 (G Front wheel drive) - 6.2 L/100km - about 16.129 km/l -> performance 132 bhp (169 Nm Torque)

From prior experience with figures from this website, these are likely for consumption on the highway. In heavier traffic the margin would probably be higher, and additional, personal driving patterns contribute much.

Incidentally, the A20 (Front wheel drive) has 6.1 L/100km -> produces 152 bhp power (196 Nm torque) and has CV Transmission...

Of the three engines, I'd opt for the 2000cc (A20) due to the power / economy mix -> though most people wouldn't coz of the D4 phobia.
eddyz
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 29, 2010 8:34:46 PM
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@mondisto
A more powerful engine needs less effort than a smaller engine to move a car body of comparative weight. The A15 and A18 share the same body but the higher power output of the A18 engine means not much fuel to propel the car. As for the 1500cc you feel the need to push it more to move the same weight.Thus less power for a given weight and more power for the same weight will result in almost same consumption for the bigger and smaller engine.

I also have personal experience with carina 1500 and 1800.these cars have the same body but you feel the engine struggling with the 1500 carina while with the 1800 the car moves like a breeze with same amount if not a little less spent on fuel for a similar distance. Incidentally the 1800cc carina with a lean burn engine actually uses less fuel than the 1500 carina with standard EFI engine as per specs and even in practice!!

In addition to the info by tuvok, note the 1800 model delivers the higher torque at same 4200 rpm, and that’s why for the same car body, the A18 will give much better performance than the A15 with roughly same fuel consumption.

Car engine/transmission technology has come long way hence the traditional view that a bigger engine equals more fuel consumption is not necessarily true.
groupielove
#18 Posted : Monday, August 02, 2010 2:10:20 PM
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Thanks you guys for this. So between 1800cc and a 2000cc with a CV transmission, which has a better handling and fuel economy? By this we have ruled out the 1500cc
jaggernaut
#19 Posted : Monday, August 02, 2010 2:38:10 PM
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And when it comes to transmission, what's the difference between FAT and AT.
eddyz
#20 Posted : Monday, August 02, 2010 3:41:02 PM
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@jaggernaut

both refer to auto transmission,FAT for floor Automatic Transmission (location of gear lever)
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