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Withdrawing local currency from a foreign currency debit card
IT'd
#1 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 3:04:56 PM
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This is abit frustrating but why are banks allowed to fix their own foreign currency exchange rates?Some just pull numbers out of their ass and set that as the exchange rate.

Am expecting a mastercard debit card with some dollars in it.When I withdraw money(ksh.) from a local ATM,will it calculate the exchange rate according to numbers internationally/CBK or will it calculate according to the imaginary number set by barclays bank in this case?

Are there any other banks/ATMs that accept mastercard but with competitive exchange rates?
kizee
#2 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 3:56:57 PM
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IT'd wrote:
This is abit frustrating but why are banks allowed to fix their own foreign currency exchange rates?Some just pull numbers out of their ass and set that as the exchange rate.

Am expecting a mastercard debit card with some dollars in it.When I withdraw money(ksh.) from a local ATM,will it calculate the exchange rate according to numbers internationally/CBK or will it calculate according to the imaginary number set by barclays bank in this case?

Are there any other banks/ATMs that accept mastercard but with competitive exchange rates?



if im not mistaken the rates used by card companies are dictated by the card issuer eg mastercard or visa...i cud be wrong...either way u wudnt be given a cbk rate because the cbk rate is merely and indicative rate of various market players rates at a given time...
RVP
#3 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 4:03:03 PM
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The prevailing global rate is applied if you are withdrawing KES locally from an international Mastercard. At least that has been my experience. Anytime before I withdraw, I have used www.xe.com for a rough idea of the rate and it has always been accurate. But you must factor in ATM withdrawal fees, FX conversion charges, the card provider's commission and other costs which the firm that gave you the card will inform you on. A Mastercard is accepted on KCB, BBK, Stanbic and Pesapoint ATMs because I have used them before. There are most probably more ATMs that accept it. In other words the last thing you should be concerned about is finding ATMs that will accept your card.
IT'd
#4 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 8:47:16 PM
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Thanks to both of you.Will sure be checking out xe.com
kanduma
#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:17:53 AM
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i have been using bbk and the rates are okey.pesa point i triend once and i dont intend to go there again they rates were too low.
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the deal
#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:30:38 AM
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CfcStanbic is the best when using a foreign ATM card...they always charge me 250 bob as withdrawal fee+commission which depends on the amount you are withdrawing...CBK rates always apply so check out the rates at www.centralbank.go.ke...the way those rates flactuate thats how your money also fluctuate...
mondisto
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:20:26 PM
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Exchange rate are determined by the branding company which can either be VISA, Mastercard, JBC, Mastero, Dinners and many more.
VISA rate will be standard across board for all visa acquirers (POS and ATM) for a particular currency on any day. Difference comes in when an issuer(The bank that provides the card) opts to charge or defined a commission on a particular type of a transaction depending either on transaction type, currency type, transacting point. That why you find some issuers opt on charge point of sale others do. for foreign currency txn some issuers inflate the exchange rate levied by visa/mastercard to PROTECT themselves against exchange losses. Hence the discrepancy.
Jamani
#8 Posted : Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:09:55 PM
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Just to echo what others have said the rates are not CBK rates and they are higher than CBK or local bank rates. I find it easier, cheaper and with good rates using my debt or credit card to withdraw locally than send money from abroad, due to charges and poor exchange rates. I can also withdraw from my debt card in local currency the maximum amount set on my account abroad (meaning bulk money in a single day)
IT'd
#9 Posted : Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:17:11 PM
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The issuing company is charging $3.15 per ATM withdrawal,this shouldn't be a a problem if I withdraw huge sums at a time.Point of sale transactions are free.

However,this is the part that I still don't understand:

Quote:
*When a Purchase Transaction or ATM Withdrawal is requested outside of the U.S., up to 3.0 % above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange rates.

Basically what does this mean?It was written in small fonts and appears to have strategically been placed at the bottom of the page for me not to see it.Is this some sort of fine print?
What does this mean if say am withdrawing sh.10,000?
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