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StatMeister
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:09:15 AM
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Wondergirl wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
@robert . If giving advice is illigal . I shld b on death penalty . Just enjoy the forum and watch out for @ vvs . He might decide to give his junk stock - Olympia a strong buy......

I think this qw250.... guy has a low self esteem. Why does he keep comparing himself to VVS?


@w, he was refering to @vvs posts - the guys has 3900+ posts and there is some lobbying wazua gives a title above elder for 4000+ posts
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rymoh
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:13:23 AM
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sparkly wrote:
@rymo forget about making quick cash at the nse, coz thats what you are asking. You only need to know one phrase 'margin of safety' google it, read, read read. Then buy kcb, keep it for 3 years, sell it in 2014 and go for a holiday.

hi,
thanks for the advice. i have traded befor and i dont think my question was regarding making quick cash. and also why do buy shares at the first plsce, to make cash i think. just a word.
rymoh
#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:15:26 AM
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winston wrote:
Would suggest you take time to dig-up Wazua threads on any share you want to plunge into. It will give a generally good feel of what to touch and what not to touch.



Q winston, thanks alot. i sure did and i think i got some knowledge out of it.
youcan'tstopusnow
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:16:29 AM
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stat, umenena ukweli. qw has rubbed half of Wazuans the wrong way. His latest post just confirms that people never change.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
sparkly
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:39:43 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
stat, umenena ukweli. qw has rubbed half of Wazuans the wrong way. His latest post just confirms that people never change.

@y the whipping he gets in the "best stock analyst" will humble him, but of course if he is that good we shall respect him. And what happened to buy, buy, buy... lol
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kyt
#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:41:29 PM
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qw1985 and yeke ARE not so lucky everybody seems to be verz on their case.
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Wendz
#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:55:22 PM
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the deal wrote:
Theres no short cut to success...take time to learn...


If you look at most of the posts, they rotate around this quoted statement..... taking time to learn and understand the stocks you pick is paramount.

No one can tell you for sure which stock is best to pick but if you dig out earlier posts, you will see lots of information (some that you will not get in their annual reports or their websites) that will help you with your pick. Give credit to many here that are very knowledgeable but ultimately, the decision should be yours.... there are people here who will tell you they have bought because of a buy buy buy buy post and they are still leaking their wounds... and others are on holiday....

Among the information you will find is some that you will need to ignore - you will need to know the difference.

Let me add, Mumias and NIC are my darlings.... am really hoping mumias could be ignored enough to hit 10 and i jump in again....
PKoli
#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:06:03 PM
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@Wendz,

I will touch MSC if I am assured that the Tana project will go on. I do not see how they will compete with the sugar from the comesa region given the high cost of sugar production from the region. Even if Msc will manage to buy Nzoia Sugar company, the situation will not change.
youcan'tstopusnow
#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:52:25 PM
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PKoli, what about the ethanol they will be producing from next year? That is as good a development as the co-generation
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PKoli
#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:18:29 PM
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@youcan'tstopusnow,

I have not fully grasped the economics of the ethanol and its contribution to the company's bottomline. The cogen is reasonable, but I would like to analyse the performance in a year. I would like to have proper forensic analysis of the cogen revenue, its O & M costs and how much loan they are servicing. At the beginning they had a lot of operational challenges. I would also like to be convinced about the availability of bagasse to sustain the 35 MW plant.
qw25041985
#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:19:04 PM
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@deal . Vipi bwana ? Ar u still waiting for KCB @ 15.00 after what Moo said the other day. I dnt c it happenning . And bytheway Msc @ ksh 10.00 is a no no no no . Tooo much support @ 12.50 . Me think that .
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the deal
#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:22:21 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@deal . Vipi bwana ? Ar u still waiting for KCB @ 15.00 after what Moo said the other day. I dnt c it happenning . And bytheway Msc @ ksh 10.00 is a no no no no . Tooo much support @ 12.50 . Me think that .


Mzuri sana....by the way wat if KCB doesnt get the 15Bil...Wazua Rumour has it that they wont...so i wait...August is nxt week...
guru267
#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:02:08 PM
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the deal wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
@deal . Vipi bwana ? Ar u still waiting for KCB @ 15.00 after what Moo said the other day. I dnt c it happenning . And bytheway Msc @ ksh 10.00 is a no no no no . Tooo much support @ 12.50 . Me think that .


Mzuri sana....by the way wat if KCB doesnt get the 15Bil...Wazua Rumour has it that they wont...so i wait...August is nxt week...

If they dont get the 15billion the share will definitely fall because that will be viewed as a vote of no confidence on the firm
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ProverB
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:11:20 PM
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the deal wrote:
by the way wat if KCB doesnt get the 15Bil...Wazua Rumour has it that they wont...so i wait...August is nxt week...


undersubscription..plus negative sentiment..plus fact that most retail/traders have chunks of KCB..all these makes August 19th a day to look forward to..decline in price of a share accompanied by increasing trade volumes at subsequent lower price projects a downward momentum for the share price...
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shauriyako
#35 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:00:16 PM
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rymoh wrote:
what are the best stocks to buy right now as a beginner ? that is before and after the referendum.


All considered if you are going in for the first time you do not need to start with hickups. Postreferendum entry will be better as there will be more optimism and I believe we are bound to see a more upside move going forward. A 2 week wait will not harm you much plus you can use the time to learn.
When we wake up in the morning, we have two simple choices. Go back to sleep and dream, or wake up and chase those dreams. The choice is yours! .
sparkly
#36 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:58:52 AM
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@the deal @proverb me thinks that the rights issue failure was factored into kcb price a loooong time ago. Even if they get a 30% subscription, the price fall on 19 august will be very temporary (two or three trading days)
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sparkly
#37 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:10:47 AM
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rymoh wrote:
sparkly wrote:
@rymo forget about making quick cash at the nse, coz thats what you are asking. You only need to know one phrase 'margin of safety' google it, read, read read. Then buy kcb, keep it for 3 years, sell it in 2014 and go for a holiday.

hi,
thanks for the advice. i have traded befor and i dont think my question was regarding making quick cash. and also why do buy shares at the first plsce, to make cash i think. just a word.

@ry do you want to speculate or invest? If you want to invest, research into companies you are interested in. Start with familiar companies, products you use regularly. If to trade/speculate go to www.mystocks.co.ke and buy any stock with an RSI of 30 or below. Sell when RSI hits 70. You cannot base your purchases on an event like the referendum.
Life is short. Live passionately.
winston
#38 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:22:46 PM
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@sparkly - I think you are advising 'WHAT' to buy and the referendum reference is more to do with 'WHEN' to buy. Different aspects of the trade and not mutually exclusive.
Gatheuzi
#39 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:11:03 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
Wondergirl wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
@robert . If giving advice is illigal . I shld b on death penalty . Just enjoy the forum and watch out for @ vvs . He might decide to give his junk stock - Olympia a strong buy......

I think this qw250.... guy has a low self esteem. Why does he keep comparing himself to VVS?


@w, he was refering to @vvs posts - the guys has 3900+ posts and there is some lobbying wazua gives a title above elder for 4000+ posts


Today is when I looked keenly to the numbers that follow qw - my conlusion is that the dude was born on 25th Apr 1985 or maybe that is what he wants us to believe.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
sparkly
#40 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:53:23 PM
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winston wrote:
@sparkly - I think you are advising 'WHAT' to buy and the referendum reference is more to do with 'WHEN' to buy. Different aspects of the trade and not mutually exclusive.

@winston am of the opinion that the WHAT reigns supreme over the WHEN coz its impossible to time the market. On the contrary good deals exist most of the times.
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