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I would buy BP stock
mBiaLoss
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:32:24 AM
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look folks...If I had the money, I mean real money I will buy BP stock....dudes who have money are making a killing....they buy when everybody is selling....and sell when everybody is buying...I need money
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
cnn
#2 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:06:26 AM
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Buy KK if it does fall.In any market there is money to be made if you seek out the opportunities.
youcan'tstopusnow
#3 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:53:41 AM
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You don't have to go that far. You had KQ when it was 20 or KENOL when it was 50. Or better yet when Safaricom at 3 bob? Did you buy them? (I didn't. In fact I bought KQ at 29 and sold lower) We have a tendency of 'noticing' opportunities when they are long gone. But I agree with you BP share price seems low. I don't think the Gulf spill costs will bankrupt it. It also could be a target for a takeover by other oil firms
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guru267
#4 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:54:34 AM
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@mBiaLoss please google this when you have time... "bp $100billion 15 years"
After you read tell me if the stock still looks cheap
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PKoli
#5 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:56:19 PM
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@mBiaLoss,

That is a serious gumble. With all these oil spill issues aflicting BP, you must be a guy of serious nerves to buy their shares. Will you be buying for long-term or short term?
mBiaLoss
#6 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:12:57 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@mBiaLoss please google this when you have time... "bp $100billion 15 years"
After you read tell me if the stock still looks cheap


The more scary news get out right now, the cheaper the stock becomes...that is why I would buy if I had the money...Seriously...BP is an example of too big to fail....Alot of pensioners in Britain have BP stock...so the British Government will never allow BP to fail...otherwise what will they do with all the pensioners....Look even if they pay $100b, it is over 15yrs....The Macondo well we now know has oil...lots of it it seems (estimates of about 3b barrels)...They have drilled 2 more relief wells, to kill the well and also to use it for future production....If we assume, they extract 80,000 barrels of oil per day, at the current price of $75 per barrel, then in 15yrs they will make $23b from that one well...The well will pay for itself and all the fines...But remember they will share the fines with the other two companies....
BP will survive...that is for sure...their stock right now is cheap....very cheap....because of the bad news...YES SO IF I HAD MONEY....I WILL BUY...by this next year the stock will double and I sell
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
mBiaLoss
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 9:25:05 PM
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PKoli wrote:
@mBiaLoss,

That is a serious gumble. With all these oil spill issues aflicting BP, you must be a guy of serious nerves to buy their shares. Will you be buying for long-term or short term?


Remember CitiBank...On March 9th 2009 its stock was $1.02, dudes sold that stock like hell...panicking that the company was going bankrupt...lol...The bank was too big to fail...Some managers bought millions of shares at that low rate...On March 23rd 2009, the price was $3.31 and they sold their millions of shares and made millions....People cried that it was inside trading, but they nothing wrong, they bought the shares in the open market and solid in the open..They made money..lots of it...
So BP is a very good short term investment...I will not lose a dime in 6 months if I buy now...
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
young
#8 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:01:39 PM
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@mBiaLoss

Your thoughts and reasoning are spots on.
But at USD37.00 at the moment I think you may be able to get it cheaper circa USD30.00 that will happen if the oil price slips to circa USD70.00, but it can go either way. Two weeks ago BP was as low as USD28.
Spending USD 100B over fifteen yes is a small fry from the expected receinue BP will make in 15 years.
There is no way BP will not reach USD 62.38 in US market but it ,may be longer than 6 or 7 months. I suggest a minimum of 1 year.

Your illustration of Citibank is absolutely right.

Just like GOK did not allow Uchumi (a supermarket) to go under the oil giant BP cannot be allowed to die because of pensioners funds.
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guru267
#9 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 12:24:52 PM
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@mbialoss citibank and bp are actually very different... Citibank had interests of the general public who had their huge savings in it and hence it would have a great economic effect if it failed.... The pensioners you are talking about in BP are ordinary shareholders who know the risk of holding BP shares and the world would move on if BP went under..... This is the main reason citibank was saved with taxpayers money and BP would not be saved....
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mBiaLoss
#10 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 12:56:27 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@mbialoss citibank and bp are actually very different... Citibank had interests of the general public who had their huge savings in it and hence it would have a great economic effect if it failed.... The pensioners you are talking about in BP are ordinary shareholders who know the risk of holding BP shares and the world would move on if BP went under..... This is the main reason citibank was saved with taxpayers money and BP would not be saved....


I guess you seen recently the British Government come out exerting pressure on the US gov to go easy on BP...It is political hot potato...for the British gov to sit by and watch BP go under...From some estimations other than the British Gov, BP is the second biggest supporter of pensioners in the UK....BP going under is a political risk no one wants to take in the UK
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
Ric dees
#11 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 2:03:54 PM
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@mbialoss...Finally!! i am with you on this, i have Bp stock and the boy do i love the fluctuations!! it has fallen AGAIN seen this mornings price to 397 pence that's like 2.5% but that said i can only see a merger as a way out and this can only be good news..am not sure the Exxon merger might be anytime soon, but who knows..I love this game..

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:20:07 PM
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BP's much-criticized CEO Tony Hayward will be replaced by American Robert Dudley on Oct. 1, the company said Tuesday as it reported a record quarterly loss and set aside $32.2 billion to cover costs of the devastating Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

Corporate politics at it's best. Kick out the Briton, put in the American and all is calm. Well done BP!Applause

BBI will solve it
:)
guru267
#13 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:07:39 AM
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17.2billion dollar Q2 loss to be precise... Pray
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tony stark
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:38:59 AM
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Ric dees wrote:
@mbialoss...Finally!! i am with you on this, i have Bp stock and the boy do i love the fluctuations!! it has fallen AGAIN seen this mornings price to 397 pence that's like 2.5% but that said i can only see a merger as a way out and this can only be good news..am not sure the Exxon merger might be anytime soon, but who knows..I love this game..

Exxon would not want to merge with BP. BP could split its UK and US business and run them as 2 separate companies.
youcan'tstopusnow
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:19:11 AM
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The Gulf Spill is only going to have a short-term effect on a juggernaut like BP. Long term future still bright
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mBiaLoss
#16 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:28:08 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
The Gulf Spill is only going to have a short-term effect on a juggernaut like BP. Long term future still bright


I totally agree with you and that was a smart move by BP! Declare a large loss right and write claim tax credits from UK and USA govts ($7b this quarter). That means as long as BP makes losses, both Govts get no tax. If you saw the news, there are no complains from the same policians who want BP to spend all that and dont want it to claim the Tax Credits.
By the way BP is never ever going to spend $30b dollars...When the Exon Valdex grounded in Alaska in 1989, the case went to Court and was only settled finally last by the US supreme court that ruled that Exonn did not have to all the money the Govt wanted. That is 20+ yrs after the spill. Exonn never merged and never collapsed.As a matter of fact it grew to be the largest publicly traded company in the world.
Come back to BP, when all the political noise and dust has settled down the case will go to course and the following points to come to light:
1. As per current USA law, there a Cap in BPs liability (a few billion dollars but am not sure of the exact number, $2b I think)
2. The moner doesnt have to be paid right away: It took exonn 20yrs, so even if BP want to spend 32b, that is over 15-20yrs...It can afford that.
3. BP only owned a 65% stake on that well..There an american company with 25% stake that nobody talks about and a Japanese company with a 10% stake. Those companies are Jointly responsible for the clean up cost.
4. Transocean owned the rig, and will be responsible for the people who died during the explosion. And if found to have been criminally negligent in safely operating the rig (read switching off critical monitors) they will be responsible for something.
5. Harlibuton did the cementing work on the well before explosion and if they did a shortie job, they will be fined and held liable for some costs..
6. The company that made the faultie Blow Out Preventer BOP) is currently wishing the political dust continues, because if it settles, the question will be: Why did the BOP not work?

As you can see, there plenty of parties to share the cost with BP....

I still mantain if I had money..BP is a perfect opportunity for me to make a killing...Look from June 28th to now the stock of the company has increased by $10, a 35% return if I had bought then...
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
mBiaLoss
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:32:12 AM
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mBiaLoss wrote:
[quote=youcan'tstopusnow]The Gulf Spill is only going to have a short-term effect on a juggernaut like BP. Long term future still bright


Come back to BP, when all the political noise and dust has settled down the case will go to course and the following points to come to light:
quote]
My bad, I meant the case will go to court and the following points will come to light
As an investor I behave like a tick, patiently waiting on grass and larch onto the first cow that shows up. As an investor I dont behave like a tick...I jump off the the cow as soon as am fully engorged before it dies...
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