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Standard Chartered Rights Issue...............
Gordon Gekko
#21 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 5:03:12 PM
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ksh 245 today. Where is this one running to? Might make the rights price expensive. Sad

cnn
#22 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 5:28:31 PM
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I am enjoying the ride on this one,still the lowest per among the big banks and first quarter growth was superb.
@GG,i think any price less than 150 which is what i expect will be very cheap.
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#23 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 6:19:20 PM
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I am bullish on this stock and expect the price to approach the Ksh 270 range once the 1st Half 2010 results and the rights issue details are announced (Refer to my earlier post on Playing the Market; A New Year Resolution)

Currently trading at a P/E of 14.3, it is cheaper than Backlays at a P/E 15.33. This is despite the fact that the company announced a 39% Q1 rise in profits.

The impending rights issue for 27M additional shares looks likely to be at a 1:10 offer and at an attractive price if the target Ksh 2.5B is maintained.

The company also has a habit of issuing interim dividends at the half year mark.

A 10% capital gain is possible within the next two weeks.

Happy hunting.
cnn
#24 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 8:56:59 PM
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@stocksmaster,and a dividend yield above 5%,comparable only to BAT.
Gordon Gekko
#25 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 7:00:47 PM
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250 and still galloping, be still my beating heart.....
Horton
#26 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 8:56:51 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
250 and still galloping, be still my beating heart.....



Hmmm....dude jes realized, we invest in pretty much the same counters. Started off wid kenol when we were screaming our heads off when it was in the sub-50 levels. Now into this. Yep I bought into this at 200-220 levels. Waiting on rights. Worked it out at 93 bob
Gordon Gekko
#27 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 9:52:05 PM
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@horton, don't tell me you are also waiting for SASN and MSC to shoot through the stratosphere in Sep/Oct, and made a bad call getting into KQ at 54 at the prompting of @vvs?
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#28 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 7:59:20 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@horton, don't tell me you are also waiting for SASN and MSC to shoot through the stratosphere in Sep/Oct, and made a bad call getting into KQ at 54 at the prompting of @vvs?

Just as an FYI... I too bought KQ... Mea Culpa on that one! Well, I just hope post-Referendoom & the release of 1Q 2010-11 stats helps me out!

As for Sasini - I do not do merali shares... I don't even bother with Sasini...
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Horton
#29 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:34:57 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@horton, don't tell me you are also waiting for SASN and MSC to shoot through the stratosphere in Sep/Oct, and made a bad call getting into KQ at 54 at the prompting of @vvs?


Nope got no SASN, bought MSC at 4bob, got out at 11.40. Have no KQ.
Only have KK, SCBK, Carbacid & REA
Horton
#30 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:39:37 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
ksh 245 today. Where is this one running to? Might make the rights price expensive. Sad




Rights will not be a percentage of current price it will be a ratio of what they want to raise, whatever the case, it will be around the 93bob mark. so the price rally really doesnt matter
Gatheuzi
#31 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:27:37 PM
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Then @ rights below 100, this will be a true bargain. We need a confirmation though.
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guru267
#32 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:45:30 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Then @ rights below 100, this will be a true bargain. We need a confirmation though.

I also calculated the rights price at below 100bob considering what they are raising the capital for then they wouldn't dare offer a higher price
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Gordon Gekko
#33 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:55:21 PM
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Why should they sell at sub 100 when they can easily get a full subscription at 200?
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#34 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 12:25:56 AM
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Selling the rights for under 100 will be robbery. Even if it is just for capital, why not take the extra cash and park it in Govt treasuries until you figure a way to use it just like Equity did with the Helios investment when they parked 10B in govt treasuries for a year until they were able to complete the Uganda purchase and expansion into South Sudan
guru267
#35 Posted : Monday, July 26, 2010 1:52:43 AM
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gladiator wrote:
Selling the rights for under 100 will be robbery.

@gladiator robbery against who??? Certainly not the shareholders because i consider the rights below 100 a bargain
Mark 12:29
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gladiator
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 12:12:02 AM
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guru267 wrote:
gladiator wrote:
Selling the rights for under 100 will be robbery.

@gladiator robbery against who??? Certainly not the shareholders because i consider the rights below 100 a bargain


It is to the shareholders because the new shares affect the value of the old shares (dilutive effect) especially to those shareholders who do not take up the rights. For example, if I have 2 shares currently valued at 250/- and then you introduce a new share at 100/-, all the shares will automatically become worth 200/-.

Rights issue prices matter otherwise management would always be doing rights issues for even as low as one 1/- to raise capital. Remember that one tenet for them is to maximize value for all shareholders.
Horton
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:00:40 AM
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gladiator wrote:
guru267 wrote:
gladiator wrote:
Selling the rights for under 100 will be robbery.

@gladiator robbery against who??? Certainly not the shareholders because i consider the rights below 100 a bargain


It is to the shareholders because the new shares affect the value of the old shares (dilutive effect) especially to those shareholders who do not take up the rights. For example, if I have 2 shares currently valued at 250/- and then you introduce a new share at 100/-, all the shares will automatically become worth 200/-.

Rights issue prices matter otherwise management would always be doing rights issues for even as low as one 1/- to raise capital. Remember that one tenet for them is to maximize value for all shareholders.




ratio is 1:10 not 1:2
cnn
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:38:08 PM
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Its just touched a historical high at 265.At 270 half of my holdings bought at 200 , will gladly part with.Retain the other half and wait for the rights.
wote
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:10:32 PM
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Initial plans were to price the rights issue at Ksh 148/= but with the share on the upward move, its likely to be priced at around ksh 175/=
PKoli
#40 Posted : Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:38:59 PM
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Pals who bought into this security are on top of the moon. what are the fundamentals of Stanchart that have lifted it to such great heights?
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