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Impact of the August 4th Referendum on the market
shauriyako
#1 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 2:53:53 PM
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Hie Wazurians. Is it just me or is there likely to be some slowdown in the market come the Referendum
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#2 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 2:57:29 PM
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definitely... and when we start killing each other... it will only get worse... Welcome to Kenya...
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Fundaah
#3 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 3:01:09 PM
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It will depend on whether you will accept my advise......Vote for your investment .....Vote for your children's future...Vote for the political and economic stability of the country ....vote for the NSE upsurge ...Vote YES ....if you care for your country.... money and children...Otherwise you will see 'RED' in your investments.....At no other time in the Country's future will you ever see the political will for a new constition as we have now.....lets embrace it ....otherwise dont ever expect a new constitution in your remaining lifetime if this one fails....persuasively tell this to your neighbour.....>>>>>>>>>>
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shauriyako
#4 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 3:10:39 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
definitely... and when we start killing each other... it will only get worse... Welcome to Kenya...


I believe as Kenyans we would'nt want to go that way having seen what it did to us. As Fundaah puts it we will vote for our money and Children.
What I wonder is how many of us will be ready to take advantage of the buying opportunities that will present themselves.
Put differently would you invest in the market now or would you wait till after referendum - if you had a tiddy sum.
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VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 3:26:00 PM
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My gut tells me there will be problems yet I refuse to disinvest... I am a patriotic FOOL...
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hindi ni riu
#6 Posted : Monday, June 21, 2010 11:11:58 PM
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Well....I dont see no problem, at least not one that can affect the market significantly.I do think Kenya is past that, people know better now.

“Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:04:31 AM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
Well....I dont see no problem, at least not one that can affect the market significantly.I do think Kenya is past that, people know better now.


Yes, that is what I told myself in 2007 & 1Q 2008... See http://url4.eu/4pHTo
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guru267
#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:29:19 PM
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the market is pricing in a "YES" vote so if the "NO" camp wins then we will have to expect the market to sell off
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VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:22:18 PM
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guru267 wrote:
the market is pricing in a "YES" vote so if the "NO" camp wins then we will have to expect the market to sell off

YES or NO... violence will negate it all... If the referendum (whatever the result) goes 'smoothly' then investors will return...
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:10:37 PM
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guru267 wrote:
the market is pricing in a "YES" vote so if the "NO" camp wins then we will have to expect the market to sell off


I am not sure the yes victory has been properly priced into the market price. Personally I expect a yes win to spike the price up by atleast 40% in the short run mostly as a result of euphoria and the hope of making a quick buck. Then people will realise that you still need to work even with the new constitution to earn some bread.

On the foreign front, I expect Obama will be yelling from the roof tops and pointing out at how Kenya is a beacon of hope, return from the brink and gateway to east and central africa, should also excite some foreign investors into buying.

In the long run, the fundamentals will return to dictate the market direction.

A no victory spells doom for the country and the market direction will be the least of my worries.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:05:41 AM
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If you haven't seen it already, there is a Wazua poll on the proposed constitution. The last poll ended in a tie. To get to the thread follow:
Wazua » Club SK » Politics » Proposed constitution: new opinion poll... or simply click on this link:
http://wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=7460
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guru267
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:19:21 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:


I am not sure the yes victory has been properly priced into the market price. Personally I expect a yes win to spike the price up by atleast 40% in the short run mostly as a result of euphoria and the hope of making a quick buck. Then people will realise that you still need to work even with the new constitution to earn some bread.

On the foreign front, I expect Obama will be yelling from the roof tops and pointing out at how Kenya is a beacon of hope, return from the brink and gateway to east and central africa, should also excite some foreign investors into buying.

In the long run, the fundamentals will return to dictate the market direction.

A no victory spells doom for the country and the market direction will be the least of my worries.



@Ob1 the only problem with all of this is that the NO camp is gaining ground... if only the abortion and Khadhi courts clauses were not included there would be notning to worry about....
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#13 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 4:19:35 PM
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http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFJOE66M0GN20100723

the yes vote will carry the day... so i guess there's no need to worry.. e'en though my vote is different.
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Chaka
#14 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 5:19:22 PM
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We should have had two drafts,draft A being the current draft and draft B being the current draft but minus tha abortion and kadhi clauses.Then vote on the two drafts..either way we would end up with a new constitution...
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#15 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 8:30:04 PM
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Chaka wrote:
We should have had two drafts,draft A being the current draft and draft B being the current draft but minus tha abortion and kadhi clauses.Then vote on the two drafts..either way we would end up with a new constitution...

Why single out the abortion and kadhi clauses? Other people also have issues with many other clauses, not necessarily the aforementioned two. Will we grant them their wish of having some clauses removed? Then we would have a million drafts to choose from, which is not practical. Constitution making cannot be relegated to being a matter of choosing between drafts A,B,C,D,E,F....Either you're pro or con. YES or NO. No two ways about it. Hakuna nusunusu au shingo upande.Liar
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#16 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 10:07:30 PM
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My problem with the draft the bit where any street urchin under eight yrs is automatically granted kenyan citizenship. But that can be fixed later.
youcan'tstopusnow
#17 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 10:21:45 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
My problem with the draft the bit where any street urchin under eight yrs is automatically granted kenyan citizenship. But that can be fixed later.

So if the kids from Kakuma find their way into Nairobi and other towns, they automatically become citizens?
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Gatheuzi
#18 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:51:31 PM
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Opinion poll as of yesterday points to a YES win. Just adjust ua porfolio accordingly.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:03:50 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Opinion poll as of yesterday points to a YES win. Just adjust ua porfolio accordingly.

Gatheuzi, we all know YES will win. Only question is whether there'll be violence
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obiero
#20 Posted : Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:43:52 PM
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since government with all its arms is on the yes side. shld the draft see the light of day, you can expect an extremely heavy handed response to the 'lawbreakers'

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