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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/20/2010 Posts: 17 Location: kenya
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Which one will be mostly affected in case no wins .....and vice versa
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 1,279 Location: nbi
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If No-ists win ata wazua will lose ma-fans. NSE stocks will take 15-20% hit The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2009 Posts: 2,863
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The consequences of a NO victory are too grave to contemplate. Luckily, we shall not have a ref Urendum soon. IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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Wa_ithaka wrote:If No-ists win ata wazua will lose ma-fans. NSE stocks will take 15-20% hit It all depends on whether the results will be peaceful.....without violence a a higly unlikely 'No' win will lead to gradual decline in the NSE.....as investors will offload polepole.....the effects of violent 'No' win aftermath are just hard to contemplate....investors and kenyan economy kwisa... the 'Nos' have ingiliad foreigners so much that no foreigner will be interested in putting off the fire.... Mbaya sana..... Foreigners will be happy to lecture us....telling us ...'si tuliwaambia'....and mtajikaanga na mafuta yenu... lakini I ask kwanini tujiingize kwa shimo tukiona....si we just vote .Yes' for the sake of our countrys ...investment future.....? Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/24/2008 Posts: 781
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anyone who can remember what happened in the previous referendum,to the market in particular? The market is not so simple,what everyone believes will happen is usually ignored Just like 2008,there were myriad of reasons why the market was going down...mara safcon ipo,p.e.v,hague etc etc The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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sheep wrote:anyone who can remember what happened in the previous referendum,to the market in particular?
The market is not so simple,what everyone believes will happen is usually ignored
Just like 2008,there were myriad of reasons why the market was going down...mara safcon ipo,p.e.v,hague etc etc
@sheep. Remember one simple fact. At referendum in 2005 we'd not yet gone through the agony of PEV and learnt its lessons. there4 no effect on NSE. But with this referendum, EVERYTHING hangs in the balance. Remember too that without a new constitution we'll be in a vacuum? R u aware that the mandate of most commissions and especially the IIEC ends in DEC 2010? Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/23/2010 Posts: 868 Location: La Islas Galápagos
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mnandii wrote:sheep wrote:anyone who can remember what happened in the previous referendum,to the market in particular?
The market is not so simple,what everyone believes will happen is usually ignored
Just like 2008,there were myriad of reasons why the market was going down...mara safcon ipo,p.e.v,hague etc etc
@sheep. Remember one simple fact. At referendum in 2005 we'd not yet gone through the agony of PEV and learnt its lessons. there4 no effect on NSE. But with this referendum, EVERYTHING hangs in the balance. Remember too that without a new constitution we'll be in a vacuum? R u aware that the mandate of most commissions and especially the IIEC ends in DEC 2010? Did we have ATS in May 2005? or were those the days a trade took 1 month to settle (if guys start off-loading today, you'd see the effect next month!) A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Here's a quote from Warren Buffett's 'The Making of an American Capitalist' Autobiography'. The state of the economy or political worries should never affect your decision whether to buy a stock. Forecasting is a waste of time, you should analyse a company and not an economy.If a company has strong fundamentals it will wither through. It's value on paper might be affected temporally.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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Go overdrive in buying goods when theres blood in the streets...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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Wa_ithaka wrote:If No-ists win ata wazua will lose ma-fans. NSE stocks will take 15-20% hit In other words for those of us who exited to come back after referundum are better of voting RED!
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 101 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Here's a quote from Warren Buffett's 'The Making of an American Capitalist' Autobiography'.
The state of the economy or political worries should never affect your decision whether to buy a stock. Forecasting is a waste of time, you should analyse a company and not an economy.
If a company has strong fundamentals it will wither through. It's value on paper might be affected temporally. in other words, as investors we should identify the solid companies and in case the market is affected negatively, then we should buy more because it will be temporally!!! My worry is that if the vote sways for the NO, the future of Kenya will be bleak...not for the near future but at least for 7-10yrs..the Kenyan economy will be the shakiest in East Africa..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:Go overdrive in buying goods when theres blood in the streets... Depends on how you look at it. A NO might just be a NO. As a matter of fact a YES vote is more likely to bring that blood on the street than a NO vote. Whichever way I don't anticipate a major decline in demand for goods and services, do you?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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My disappointment is that schools are closing a week earleir. They had been scheduled to close on Aug 6th but they now close on July 30th. A week of buying three loaves of bread daily is the equivalent of a few KK shares.... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/23/2010 Posts: 868 Location: La Islas Galápagos
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mwenza wrote:The consequences of a NO victory are too grave to contemplate.
Luckily, we shall not have a refUrendum soon. How so? A no will leave us without a new constitution, i.e. with the consitution we already have. What will change so fundamentally to cause a market crash? In fact, a YES win means structural changes in government which may have SOME (not a lot of) effect on the markets, especially senior appointments and regulatory environment A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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I still think that the effect of YES or NO win will not be as catastrophic as PEV of 2007. We have no individuals involved here; just strong ideologies. I wish OCAMPO had already cracked the whip on some of the mpigs a**es!!! Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,136 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Here's a quote from Warren Buffett's 'The Making of an American Capitalist' Autobiography'.
The state of the economy or political worries should never affect your decision whether to buy a stock. Forecasting is a waste of time, you should analyse a company and not an economy.
If a company has strong fundamentals it will wither through. It's value on paper might be affected temporally. He was discussing the USA not tinpot dictatorships or African countries... Look at Zimbabwe or Uganda or Somalia... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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2012 wrote:the deal wrote:Go overdrive in buying goods when theres blood in the streets... Depends on how you look at it. A NO might just be a NO. As a matter of fact a YES vote is more likely to bring that blood on the street than a NO vote. Whichever way I don't anticipate a major decline in demand for goods and services, do you? With blood flowing in the Rift Valley...even the most defensive counter at the NSE will be for Sale...would you not go into a buying frenzy if KPLC dropped to 80 bob...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,136 Location: Nairobi
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I am conflicted... I want cheaper prices for the shares I want to buy but higher prices for the shares I already have... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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VituVingiSana wrote:I am conflicted... I want cheaper prices for the shares I want to buy but higher prices for the shares I already have... Mtaka yote hu... GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,136 Location: Nairobi
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I am conflicted... I want cheaper prices for the shares I want to buy but higher prices for the shares I already have... Mtaka yote hu... I am like an MPig of the NSE... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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