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#101 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 9:43:19 PM
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Breaking news:KQ wont sell its stake in PW according to reuters...
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#102 Posted : Friday, July 16, 2010 10:29:27 PM
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#103 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:11:45 AM
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If approx 31% of Precision is worth $28mn then 34.2% owned by KQ worth $32mn... Not bad, huh?

Plus cash going into expansion which means PW must be doing a-OK for the expansion to take place!

85% market shares in Tanzania...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#104 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:23:08 AM
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@VVS I went through one of your blogs...one post says Jubilee has a stake in Africa Re...Mbogo's new employers...i think Africa Re is on the offensive here...with the expiry of the cessions i think theyccan take business from Kenya Re...i think u should blog more...ur blogs are awesome...
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#105 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:51:35 AM
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the deal wrote:
@VVS I went through one of your blogs...one post says Jubilee has a stake in Africa Re...Mbogo's new employers...i think Africa Re is on the offensive here...with the expiry of the cessions i think theyccan take business from Kenya Re...i think u should blog more...ur blogs are awesome...

Blogs gani hizo?
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#106 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:53:50 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
If approx 31% of Precision is worth $28mn then 34.2% owned by KQ worth $32mn... Not bad, huh?

Plus cash going into expansion which means PW must be doing a-OK for the expansion to take place!

85% market shares in Tanzania...

Hope the management are able to handle the ex pansion well, not like the botched Uchumi expansion
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#107 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:11:36 PM
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Whoever has a copy of the recent email sent by Sterling Investment Bank to its clients, please send me a copy.thnx. My email address is ericnyamu@yahoo.com
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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#108 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 12:28:07 PM
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@vvs. Thanx allot for the access to the live system. I cannt thanx u enough !!!!!! I think i shld buy u a crate of whatever u lov drinking .no kumi kumi allowd, hahaha
bxtheway. Could you give us a link to ur blogs that @thedeal is talking about. I would love to read them...
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#109 Posted : Saturday, July 17, 2010 7:07:14 PM
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KQ isn't selling its shares. PW is creating new shares that will result in KQ's dilution from 49% to 34%. Shirima's stake will dilute from 51% to 34%. The new shares will be sold to Tanzanians and generate 2B towards expansion.
The upside of this is twofold. One will be cash for PW and two will be the removal of the xenophobic perception in Tz that PW is a kenyan airline.
I'm not worried about haphazard expansion (ala Uchumi) if they keep Kioko on board and listen to KQ advise.
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#110 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:41:04 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@vvs. Thanx allot for the access to the live system. I cannt thanx u enough !!!!!! I think i shld buy u a crate of whatever u lov drinking .no kumi kumi allowd, hahaha
bxtheway.
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#111 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 3:43:11 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
KQ isn't selling its shares. PW is creating new shares that will result in KQ's dilution from 49% to 34%. Shirima's stake will dilute from 51% to 34%. The new shares will be sold to Tanzanians and generate 2B towards expansion.
The upside of this is twofold. One will be cash for PW and two will be the removal of the xenophobic perception in Tz that PW is a kenyan airline.
I'm not worried about haphazard expansion (ala Uchumi) if they keep Kioko on board and listen to KQ advise.

Can Tanzanians raise $28 million? I wish KQ would have kept 49% by subscribing as well...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#112 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:42:06 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
My email address is ericnyamu@yahoo.com

@qw.... Did you just reveal your real name??
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#113 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:08:43 PM
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guru, you were AWOL when qw first revealed his name. I even believe he got a Facebook friend request from the deal.smile
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#114 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:24:26 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru, you were AWOL when qw first revealed his name. I even believe he got a Facebook friend request from the deal.smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
@youcant he is yet to accept my friend request but i hear he also screams BUY BUY BUY Access Kenya there..
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#115 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:31:27 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
KQ isn't selling its shares. PW is creating new shares that will result in KQ's dilution from 49% to 34%. Shirima's stake will dilute from 51% to 34%. The new shares will be sold to Tanzanians and generate 2B towards expansion.
The upside of this is twofold. One will be cash for PW and two will be the removal of the xenophobic perception in Tz that PW is a kenyan airline.
I'm not worried about haphazard expansion (ala Uchumi) if they keep Kioko on board and listen to KQ advise.

Can Tanzanians raise $28 million? I wish KQ would have kept 49% by subscribing as well...

its this sought of mentality thats why Kenya will never move forward...how can a country of 50M people fail to raise a mere $28M...Mr Shirima(1 person) owns 51% of PW...stop underestimating Tanzanians...Kenyans cant even manage an election apart from killing each other...
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#116 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:36:26 PM
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the deal wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru, you were AWOL when qw first revealed his name. I even believe he got a Facebook friend request from the deal.smile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
@youcant he is yet to accept my friend request but i hear he also screams BUY BUY BUY Access Kenya there..

HAAAAAHAAAAA!Laughing out loudly I swear qw is going to have your head for this.
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#117 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:59:43 PM
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@the deal - Namibia is lucky... it has minerals galore... also who really runs the businesses there apart from S.Africans?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#118 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:26:19 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
@staitmeister. Why ?


@qw, i posted earlier - its the revaluations which go to the P&L. Careful interpretation as such cannot always be liquidated (e.g. KenRe liquidating its holdings in other insurances)
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#119 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:29:24 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@the deal - Namibia is lucky... it has minerals galore... also who really runs the businesses there apart from S.Africans?


they u go if u have a fantastic business idea run to Namibia right now..the South Africans will come calling and buy you out at a premium!!!! in btwn do u believe Uranium has a future? theres this Uranium euphoria in the Namib desert..companies are pumping billions to develop mines there...Good leadership is also key for a country to prosper i.e look at Nigeria...mineral galore but...
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