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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,559
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obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things. The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country. The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds. Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance. A more apt write up would be; @Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it... Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn Oh. Like knowing how much @VVS apparently bought and sold KQ for?? I gerrit.  Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,559
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. KPLC, KenGen > KQ KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning KQ has been eating FX for years. I understand that you bought KQ at KES 570 and sold at KES 13, but time is a healer, let go and let God Was this you @Obiero??? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,752 Location: nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. KPLC, KenGen > KQ KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning KQ has been eating FX for years. I understand that you bought KQ at KES 570 and sold at KES 13, but time is a healer, let go and let God Was this you @Obiero??? Yes. That's me in glorious multicolor. Mambo yangu ni ngumu kuliko kesi ya shamba. Don't try to understand me
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things. The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country. The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds. Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance. A more apt write up would be; @Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it... Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn Oh. Like knowing how much @VVS apparently bought and sold KQ for?? I gerrit. I was scratching my head as to when I bought KQ shares at the price @Obiero was on about  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things. The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country. The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds. Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance. A more apt write up would be; @Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it... Wacha opportunity loss! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink dealKenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges. The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security. This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ. In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail. Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things. The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country. The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds. Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance. A more apt write up would be; @Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it... Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn Oh. Like knowing how much @VVS apparently bought and sold KQ for?? I gerrit. Even I was scratching my head as to when I (supposedly) bought KQ shares at 570/- which is the price @Obiero was on about   Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,752 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Bullet 5 https://corporate.kenya-...d-business-transactions/
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,752 Location: nairobi
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Some people are selling at KES 5.40. What is guiding their thoughts. Surely I can understand the buyer, but not the seller
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Bullet 5 https://corporate.kenya-...-business-transactions/[/quote] 5. Selling of the London Heathrow Slot Regarding the selling of London Heathrow slot in 2016, we would like to state as follows: The slot was sold to optimize the network by reducing aircraft ground time at Heathrow Airport. Slots at Heathrow have commercial value and hence KQ monetized the slot and negotiated for a better slot that allows KQ to land and take-off within the shortest ground time. We are currently flying 10 times weekly to London. A slot is an authorization to land and take off at a particular airport during a specified day and period. This was a purely business decision which was done through a transparent process.
Stories za jaba! Oman Air and KLM (I think) picked up the other slots! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,752 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Bullet 5 https://corporate.kenya-...-business-transactions/[/quote] 5. Selling of the London Heathrow Slot Regarding the selling of London Heathrow slot in 2016, we would like to state as follows: The slot was sold to optimize the network by reducing aircraft ground time at Heathrow Airport. Slots at Heathrow have commercial value and hence KQ monetized the slot and negotiated for a better slot that allows KQ to land and take-off within the shortest ground time. We are currently flying 10 times weekly to London. A slot is an authorization to land and take off at a particular airport during a specified day and period. This was a purely business decision which was done through a transparent process.
Stories za jaba! Oman Air and KLM (I think) picked up the other slots! Oman Air bought it at KES 7.3B. KQ now uses the KLM slot on common understanding terms, at a cost
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,207 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Bullet 5 https://corporate.kenya-...-business-transactions/[/quote] 5. Selling of the London Heathrow Slot Regarding the selling of London Heathrow slot in 2016, we would like to state as follows: The slot was sold to optimize the network by reducing aircraft ground time at Heathrow Airport. Slots at Heathrow have commercial value and hence KQ monetized the slot and negotiated for a better slot that allows KQ to land and take-off within the shortest ground time. We are currently flying 10 times weekly to London. A slot is an authorization to land and take off at a particular airport during a specified day and period. This was a purely business decision which was done through a transparent process.
Stories za jaba! Oman Air and KLM (I think) picked up the other slots! Oman Air bought it at KES 7.3B. KQ now uses the KLM slot on common understanding terms, at a cost "Common Understanding" means little if KLM wants/needs the slot or if KQ is no longer part of SkyTeam or KLM is no longer a shareholder in KQ. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,752 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Good to see KQ expanding to Gatwick. Too bad KQ sold some primo slots to Oman Air. Folks would fly from NBO to LHR overnight lakini now that is gone. Bullet 5 https://corporate.kenya-...-business-transactions/[/quote] 5. Selling of the London Heathrow Slot Regarding the selling of London Heathrow slot in 2016, we would like to state as follows: The slot was sold to optimize the network by reducing aircraft ground time at Heathrow Airport. Slots at Heathrow have commercial value and hence KQ monetized the slot and negotiated for a better slot that allows KQ to land and take-off within the shortest ground time. We are currently flying 10 times weekly to London. A slot is an authorization to land and take off at a particular airport during a specified day and period. This was a purely business decision which was done through a transparent process.
Stories za jaba! Oman Air and KLM (I think) picked up the other slots! Oman Air bought it at KES 7.3B. KQ now uses the KLM slot on common understanding terms, at a cost "Common Understanding" means little if KLM wants/needs the slot or if KQ is no longer part of SkyTeam or KLM is no longer a shareholder in KQ. Your query is rhetorical since KLM is still a 7.8% shareholder in KQ
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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