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VituVingiSana
#15556 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2025 1:52:29 PM
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fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#15557 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2025 6:31:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.

6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing. Remember there's a global issue in parts. However, KQ fleet really needs to expand https://www.kenya-airway...r-aircraft/boeing-787-8/

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#15558 Posted : Wednesday, July 02, 2025 10:14:02 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.

6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing. Remember there's a global issue in parts. However, KQ fleet really needs to expand https://www.kenya-airway...-aircraft/boeing-787-8/[/quote]
6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly So 33% of the 787 fleet out of commission is not too shabby? Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#15559 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 8:38:27 AM
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Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
MaichBlack
#15560 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 9:35:32 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.

6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing. Remember there's a global issue in parts. However, KQ fleet really needs to expand https://www.kenya-airway...-aircraft/boeing-787-8/ >

Surely @Obiero!!! Even by your standard this is a new extreme. 33% of Boeings grounded for up to 6 months and counting and it is "not to shabby"???

You have taken defending the indefensible to a new high (or is it low? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly)
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#15561 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 1:45:35 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.

6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing. Remember there's a global issue in parts. However, KQ fleet really needs to expand https://www.kenya-airway...-aircraft/boeing-787-8/[/quote]
Surely @Obiero!!! Even by your standard this is a new extreme. 33% of Boeings grounded for up to 6 months and counting and it is "not to shabby"???

You have taken defending the indefensible to a new high (or is it low? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly)

New high 😂

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15562 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 1:49:14 PM
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littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KQ ABP 4.26
MaichBlack
#15563 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 2:51:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government might be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#15564 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 4:43:37 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15565 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 5:12:45 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15566 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 6:26:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
HaMaina wrote:
DtheK wrote:
What do the buyers see?
I see razor thin margins, less than 1% as at half year.
Colossal debt. Negative equity. Strong pilots and staff union.



True, I might get in @ < 1.00, KQ still has some way to go, hopefully a rights issue might wake things up.

Clearly, you haven't checked the trading room. Massive volume trades were happening at KES 8.. Sub KES 6 is unlikely in the mid term


KQ share price biggest loser this week.
Heading towards 4 and below

Buying opportunity

Opportunity at KES 5.60 came and has now left. Watch and learn


We were about to witness a very good rally early in the morning with more than 3m demand betwen 5-5.50, but
i witnessed somehow "sellers" trying to compete who will put a lower price, buyers panicked and withdrew and now those sellers have no option but to sell lower and lower. we could have easily clocked a volume of more than 10m and price way above 6. Those sellers missed a very good opportunity and they might wait for many months for another opportunity or exit at a very low price.

Any SALE trade happening below KES 8.52 is based on despair

H1 PBT forecast KES 4.6B

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#15567 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 7:07:43 PM
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littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

1) When will these flights commence? [The link did not work]
2) With which aircraft?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#15568 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 7:13:55 PM
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obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#15569 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 9:05:43 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

1) When will these flights commence? [The link did not work]
2) With which aircraft?

First flight went out yesternight. The DAE leased Boeing aircraft are already with KQ

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15570 Posted : Thursday, July 03, 2025 9:08:22 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ ABP 4.26
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