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Coop Bank - Stocksmaster's 1st Play 2013
Ericsson
#801 Posted : Friday, May 31, 2024 9:12:44 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,702
Location: NAIROBI
Ericsson wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
winmak wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/co-op-bank-lends-sh499m-to-its-brokerage-subsidiary--4595326

Kingdom Securities is going through tough times.

In tandem with NSE


What's with the price drop?


Book closure for 2023 dividends, April 29, 2024.


Lacklustre performance in Q1 2024


ABSA will overtake them in FY2025
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#802 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2024 8:37:46 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Location: NAIROBI
Share price hits 3 year high
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#803 Posted : Thursday, December 26, 2024 9:59:47 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
[quote=obiero]
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order[/quote]

Equity declining

www.winda.co.ke has the Q1 forecast

For 2022 Laughing out loudly

Mzee 😄

38.5B PBT FY 2024.. A solid firm

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#804 Posted : Saturday, December 28, 2024 1:37:12 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,702
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
[quote=obiero]
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order[/quote]

Equity declining

www.winda.co.ke has the Q1 forecast

For 2022 Laughing out loudly

Mzee 😄

38.5B PBT FY 2024.. A solid firm


Not possible.
Q3 PBT was ksh.26bn.
Q4 they have to make a profit of ksh.12bn if they are to report ksh.38.5bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#805 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2025 11:04:20 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,559
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obier wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
the deal wrote:
[quote=obiero]
Coop will emerge second after Equity in next three years

Do you have evidence to back it up or is it a hunch?

The writing is on the wall

Fact: Coop Bank will never overtake KCB in terms of profitability in the next 3yrs...@obiero take that to the bank or your nearest hospital...cos it aint happening...if you think it will...then buy some antiacids...

Coop already at number 3. Musical chairs, watch this space. Well maybe 3 yrs is on the shorter side as @deal said, but who else has analysed the NII, asset book, customer numbers.. The writing is on the wall.. www.businessdailyafrica....52/-/qne942/-/index.html

@@Obiero I realize you are good at the banking area. You know how and when to get info. Beside the point coop is slowly crawling up top banks in kenya.though it's a solid company their shares have only doubled since they floated the shares in 2008. Hope it will rally one day

COOP now with more market share as well as higher capital than KCB Kenya

Gideon like most wise leaders is ahead of the rate cap curve in banking.. http://www.businessdaily...56262-q4fyjp/index.html

@Obiero
In absolute terms it will take years and time before Co-op catches up with KCB.
If you compare the PBT in 2015 and 2016 for both firms you will see that the gap between the two is widening.
KCB FY 2015 PBT was ksh.26.5bn vs. Co-op ksh.15.4bn.
Gap is ksh.11.1bn

KCB FY 2016 PBT is ksh.29.1bn vs. Co-op Ksh.17.7bn
Gap is ksh.11.4bn

It takes just a couple of big ticket items to move a bank from tier 2 to tier 1.. In the same vein, simple strong corporate lending moves can make the difference for COOP, starting with Two Rivers.. Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May http://www.businessdaily...1654-vnmjkrz/index.html


Where have I read this sort of comment before? "Meanwhile, watch the upward price move prior to 27th May "


Industry status now shows COOP at number 2 both in terms of assets and liabilities as per Q1 2018 data

COOP still the bank to watch. Now second top in market share 9.9%. Slightly behind KCB at 14.4%.. https://www.standardmedi...ns-top-in-pecking-order[/quote]

Equity declining

www.winda.co.ke has the Q1 forecast

For 2022 Laughing out loudly

Mzee 😄

38.5B PBT FY 2024.. A solid firm


Not possible.
Q3 PBT was ksh.26bn.
Q4 they have to make a profit of ksh.12bn if they are to report ksh.38.5bn

Mine is a forecast. You place yours in normal Wazua fashion. Meanwhile, note that their FY 2023 PBT was KES 33.7.. What is impossible in scaling it to KES 38.5.. A mere 14% uptick

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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